Omnisphere has made it TO THE MAX!!!

[dawman]

Well put Nestor.
Does it inspire you? ..then you will play better, write more, etc.
I still write the best music when I do it on Guitar and then take it the keys...........Dunno why just works.

I love Romplers, I love Omnisphere, and I want to take long showers with Braincell as we sing Gay Love songs together to the backdrop of QL Pianos after sequencing their parts together on SpuBase.......since the the developer from East/West forgot that Real Pianos have sostenuto pedals..........ANkyu.

[Neil B]

I want to take long showers with Braincell as we sing Gay Love songs together to the backdrop of QL Pianos after sequencing their parts together on SpuBase

Have you forgotten to take your medication again Jimmy?

[dawman]

I've never openly discussed my sexual prefferences here before.
But having having an XITE-1 has made me somewhat more forthcoming I suppose.
I am actaully QuadraSexual, or so the Doctors have told me.
One Doctor was particularly interested in my love of plants.
He asked me how could I make love to a plant, and I began to describe one of my overly possesive Venus Fly Traps.........Once that baby locks onto me there's no escape...................Ankyu.

[Shroomz~>]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ayolhaLMUI

[valis]

I haven't tried Omnisphere but spectrasonics used to make decent sampler cd's, there were a few that I enjoyed using back when I used external samplers. I also own Atmosphere, which I recognize is a distant younger cousin to Omnisphere so not directly comparable, but I quite enjoyed using it back when I was both cpu & dsp challenged. Even with my JD800 I found a lot of use for it when doing string pads, as long as I kept in mind that the filter is a tad weak.

He made a comment about QL pianos sucking because it is too large. RAM is cheap and so are hard drives. Check out the Pulsar 1 CD "Ultimate Sample Collection" What a crock of BS. I am laughing my ass off!!! No sampler can be worse than the STS series. They could have been a contender siriusbliss.

From what I hear the Arturia synths are as good or better so this so called Scope monopoly you speak of is a myth as far as I am concerned and by the way they do have a modular.

IIRC Jimmy's comments about the QL pianos weren't that they sucked BECAUSE of being too large, I seem to recall something about them sucking DESPITE being as large as they are. But that's a subjective opinion (however colorfully stated) so there's no loss in disagreeing with it yourself, as long as you are clear on where you actually disagree.

Disagree with the Arturia stuff myself, at least in software form (not having tried the Origin). They certainly have a lock on nice looking UI's and excellent marketing & web-presence, but to my ears they all share a similar sound rather than sounding like they've really 'modelled' each individual synth in excruciating detail. I did notice that a few SOS reviews at least helped them refine some idiosyncrasies in the waveforms generated by some classic synths....

I love Romplers, I love Omnisphere, and I want to take long showers with Braincell as we sing Gay Love songs together to the backdrop of QL Pianos after sequencing their parts together on SpuBase.......since the the developer from East/West forgot that Real Pianos have sostenuto pedals..........ANkyu.

Any intentions of youtubing that shower session for all to enjoy?

[Neil B]

I've never openly discussed my sexual prefferences here before.
But having having an XITE-1 has made me somewhat more forthcoming I suppose.
I am actaully QuadraSexual, or so the Doctors have told me.
One Doctor was particularly interested in my love of plants.
He asked me how could I make love to a plant, and I began to describe one of my overly possesive Venus Fly Traps.........Once that baby locks onto me there's no escape...................Ankyu.

Yeh, been there, tried the venus fly trap thing.
Trouble was, I got a big beggar - wow what a bite.
Ended up as Love Lies Bleeding

{Love-Lies-Bleeding, Amaranthus caudatus - for those who miss the joke}

[braincell]

please don’t waste your time, I will never read you back, never.

Brilliant! Next he's going to stomp his feet and cry!

[Neil B]

How about getting back to Omnisphere for Nestor's sake - he did start this off after all.

Must say Nestor, since I bought it (brilliant upgrade price 'cos I owned RMX, Atmosphere & Trilogy too), I haven't really used it that much yet. And when I have, I've only tweaked a few presets.
Must get delving.

I'm sure someone like you will really get into the synth side of it too.
Enjoy it.

[siriusbliss]

He made a comment about QL pianos sucking because it is too large. RAM is cheap and so are hard drives. Check out the Pulsar 1 CD "Ultimate Sample Collection" What a crock of BS. I am laughing my ass off!!! No sampler can be worse than the STS series. They could have been a contender siriusbliss.

From what I hear the Arturia synths are as good or better so this so called Scope monopoly you speak of is a myth as far as I am concerned and by the way they do have a modular.

BC, I recommend selling all your Scope 'BS' and get on with life, and stop your haggering.
We all know that TEN YEARS AGO the 'ultimate sample collection' was a crock. So, where have you been? Living in the past is unhealthy.
Arturia is very overrated. I've heard it.
Scope is not a monopoly by any means, so please stop projecting.
If you hate Scope, it's mixers, it's users, it's whole deal, then just friggin sell your Scope cards (if you even still have them), and get on with life.
It's getting old already.
Let the rest of us poor suckers enjoy our overpriced, overrated, DSP-happy madness in peace already...

Geez...

Greg

[braincell]

Like I said before I like my Scope gear. I am waiting for the 64 bit drivers so I can use it again and DON'T ANYONE EVER TELL ME WHAT TO DO! I don't tell you what to do Greg! I am trying very hard not to use profanity. You are not my boss and your hostile suggestions are not welcome in any way shape or form! So just do what Neil said and get back to the topic. Thanks Greg!

[siriusbliss]

I was on topic, but you're constant complaining and twisting things out of context is getting really old.
We get it already.

OK....and I LIKE Omnisphere and ROMplers for strings and such, but will never use VST emulators for synths or effects again (and haven't been for quite some time now).

...and as I said on the other thread - I look forward to building a Scope environment that dances circles around Omnisphere with all the extra horsepower available now, we don't have to build i7 quads with 16G RAM just to adequately run a plugin. I'd also like to see someone build a real sampler for Scope and Xite.

How's that?

Greg

[Nestor]

Hi!

Yes brother man Jimmy , you’re write, that’s the strong point, it inspires me like crazy.
Neil, yea , I will get in depth with it sure.

I should have added that Eric is a great musician too, one of the best sample makers in the whole industry, and a superb human being too, he’s such a nice guy.

[dawman]

Yes he can play..
He use to jam at the NAMM shows back in the '90's.

Just ask yourself this.............

A guitar player made MoJo.......how does it sound and react?
A synth designer/performer made Prowave and Solaris.....how does it sound?
A Keyboardist made Omnisphere................well. we know it's fierce, even for a .....uhummm......VSTi.
That's the trend I have seen w/ sample libraries.
SampleTekk Pianos, small in size big in sound and feel, made by a Pianist.
LASS has not been released, but I have 2 very nice sounding string instruments from VSL and SISS, but they just don't react like a string section does.
But LASS is made by a composer/performer who does string sounds in movies, and has been frustrated with the " engineered " instruments we all use.
I have done pretty well with my libraries from guys I know that use the instrument they are emulating, not just a scientist w/ a white coat, or engineer who wants to discuss the 1-4msec. sample delay betweem the left axis of the right conundrum in relation to the suns solar energy, etc.etc...........How does it fuckin' sound and play, and don't lie to me and insult me with pretty pictures of the 4 Million dollar concert hall you rented just to record this..............

ANyway, I should go and see this for myself, Ihave a buddy who knows what I like and even he says you gotta stop over.
I know you have good ears and can play Nestor, so I shall investigate, and possibly might commit the sin of buying a VSTi. But only because it's from Eric Pershing....

[braincell]

You could just say that it doesn't sound real and not work with it or you could work with what is available. I am constantly getting feedback from people who love the VSL sounds and who often don't know the VSL or the QL pianos aren't real. The listener is what matters. They don't care what it "feels" like and they don't know or care that it would sound better or more complex with acoustic instruments. Being a snob will limit you.

I would like to see someone build a sampler for the Scope but not from Sonic Core if it is going to be abandoned for the next project like Creamware always did with every module they built. It should evolve over time and become increasing better. The STS series didn't really change much. One of the problems is with a small development team and so many ideas, there is no focus. A third party would have to do it if it is going to be great and it should be made by someone who has a long term commitment to it and with original creative ideas, not just a copy of some ancient hardware sampler. I also would like it to be full screen with large text for us old people with as many commonly used parameters visible at one time as possible. When working with the sampler, you can temporarily not be looking at the other Scope modules. You don't have to always see them all.

[siriusbliss]

Yes he can play..
He use to jam at the NAMM shows back in the '90's.

Just ask yourself this.............

A guitar player made MoJo.......how does it sound and react?
A synth designer/performer made Prowave and Solaris.....how does it sound?
A Keyboardist made Omnisphere................well. we know it's fierce, even for a .....uhummm......VSTi.
That's the trend I have seen w/ sample libraries.
SampleTekk Pianos, small in size big in sound and feel, made by a Pianist.
LASS has not been released, but I have 2 very nice sounding string instruments from VSL and SISS, but they just don't react like a string section does.
But LASS is made by a composer/performer who does string sounds in movies, and has been frustrated with the " engineered " instruments we all use.
I have done pretty well with my libraries from guys I know that use the instrument they are emulating, not just a scientist w/ a white coat, or engineer who wants to discuss the 1-4msec. sample delay betweem the left axis of the right conundrum in relation to the suns solar energy, etc.etc...........How does it fuckin' sound and play, and don't lie to me and insult me with pretty pictures of the 4 Million dollar concert hall you rented just to record this..............

ANyway, I should go and see this for myself, Ihave a buddy who knows what I like and even he says you gotta stop over.
I know you have good ears and can play Nestor, so I shall investigate, and possibly might commit the sin of buying a VSTi. But only because it's from Eric Pershing....

Eric is still doing the demos at NAMM to this day.
VERY impressive demos viewable on their website and youtube.

Greg

[next to nothing]

"The listener is what matters. They don't care what it "feels" like and they don't know or care that it would sound better or more complex with acoustic instruments. Being a snob will limit you."

As they don't care if your guitar solo comes from a Stratocaster or a Startocaster. But for people who actually appreciate quality from single instruments, i guess it matters. for me it does anyways.

I don't consider me choosing the tools i feel are superior as being a snob. if i was a snob, id rather heckle the hell out of SC for not making me enjoy 64bit from day 1 of Scope 5. I guess that's what the big studios do, as many of their PT desks must be obsolete now that MS introduced the saviour of music.

The listener is what matters, of course. But you better be careful who your target audience are.

[siriusbliss]

I would like to see someone build a sampler for the Scope but not from Sonic Core if it is going to be abandoned for the next project like Creamware always did with every module they built. It should evolve over time and become increasing better. The STS series didn't really change much. One of the problems is with a small development team and so many ideas, there is no focus. A third party would have to do it if it is going to be great and it should be made by someone who has a long term commitment to it and with original creative ideas, not just a copy of some ancient hardware sampler. I also would like it to be full screen with large text for us old people with as many commonly used parameters visible at one time as possible. When working with the sampler, you can temporarily not be looking at the other Scope modules. You don't have to always see them all.

Wow, I actually agree with you.

I seem to remember posting such a statement of recommendation over 5 years ago.

Another fine, focused 3rd party dev. (such as those geniuses working on the synths) dedicated to a really good sampler would be awesome.

Also, perhaps the Modulars could use a 'spiffing up', but they are nowhere near as <relatively> useless as STS5000 with a 2Gig ceiling.

Note that this is from ME - who is NOT a huge sampler/ROMpler user. (I'll be focusing on coming up with wild guitar effects)

Greg

[braincell]

Adern rescued the modular to a large extent. It would be great if more third party developers could were encouraged. You have a good memory. perhaps you remember that I suggested the platform be made open source. They would sell more hardware.

[cortone]

braincell,

Just curious, can you name any hardware companies that are selling more hardware because they made their code open source? To be even more specific, can you name any audio hardware companies? Anything to back up your assertion?

I'm assuming you also enjoy some of the 3rd party modules produced with the SDK? Is your complaint here that it is only available to 14-dsp cards?

Thanks,
Cory

[braincell]

First of all, it is my understanding that a company either allows third party developers or not. In this case, the company has allowed some third parties but refused others for no particular reason. Secondly, Creamware was a dismal failure financially so allowing open source could have been no worse than their plan was. The jury is still out on SC but I predict the same outcome of failure.