Cubase SX 4 Arrived

arela · Post by **arela** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:36 pm

The cable is ok, and it works great with SX3 - but i don't get time to do more testing in a couple of days, but this was how it was trigged:
* cw and cubase open, doing some editing.
* theni decide to record 1 more track, turned on my aphex preamp and
* changed cw from master to slave
* then it appeared.

It might be the worng way of doing it

- but it always worked with sx3

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:47 pm

I would never do it that way. It would always cause crashes that way for me.

Post by **garyb** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:41 am

it's best to close cubase before changing the clock master, otherwise when the clock changes and there is no sync, cubase loses the asio driver, which can cause a crash. that's why you no longer get sound. there is a "reset" and a "reset all" button in the asio device setup(or at least it was called something like that in sx3).

there is the "release asio driver in backround" setting in the device setup's advanced page(in cubase,or at least there has been) which could be checked before changing the master/slave relationship, and then unchecked after, but i think it's easier to just close the program.

arela · Post by **arela** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:43 pm

It seems logical what you sugest

- i better change ways of doing this

thomashenrydavies · Post by **thomashenrydavies** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:02 am

katano wrote:uuhh, i'm still on sx 1... i may should upgrade onetime... ok, i only use it as a multitracker, no mixes, no effects, just a bunch of audio channels...

There is a huge and very worthwhile improvement from SX1 to SX2. Especially if you use XTC - having full PDC is essential. The changes from SX2 to versions 3 and now 4 are, IMO, much less significant - to the degree where I do not want to upgrage my SX2 to 4 just yet. When they implement fully flexible routing and sidechaining, then I'll do it.

For you though, I'd say: upgrade!

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:57 am

I didn't think 3 was worth it from 2 but 4 is, just for the synthesizers and added stability. Cubase synths have been a joke until now.

arela · Post by **arela** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:52 pm

I think the best thing with Cubase4 is the new plug-in protocoll VST3
3. party devs will get this code 1.q of 2007
Sidechaining will be possible soon, they promised
Looks good so far

there is Instrument tracks - a combi track with midi and vsti
you can hide whatever track you want in the mixer
controllroom

By the way, its a big bug in C4;
Realtime export:
the Cancel and Prossess buttons have exchanged place (for my mind at least

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alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:08 pm

As a pure Scope plugs user C4 didn't bring anything interesting over SX3 that I already own....only reason I would have had to upgrade could have been the compatibility with higher bitrates, at least our beloved 32 bits fixed, but it wasn't so...sadly.

I use Cubase as a MIDI sequencer and multitrack recorder, and that's all, I mix, synthesize and process exclusively in scope, in fact 9 tracks on 11 of my CD have been made on VST32 because I'm faster on it, despite owning SX3 from the beginning, summing in Scope is better than any Steinberg mix bus so I don't use any....

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:45 pm

Scope is great for some things but it does not do what the NI plug-ins do.

thomashenrydavies · Post by **thomashenrydavies** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:03 am

braincell wrote:I didn't think 3 was worth it from 2 but 4 is, just for the synthesizers and added stability. Cubase synths have been a joke until now.

Well, if you want the synths, then yes. I've got more than enough synths already, so these new ones don't exite me at all. As it happens, I quite liked some of the synths bundled with SX2/3. I use Embracer and Monologue a fair bit.

The big features we were all waiting for (sidechaining and flexible routing) have STILL not been added - I was *amazed* at this when I found out. Cubase 4 is still Cubase SX 2.6 as far as I'm concerned.

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:18 am

King of Snake wrote: I'd like to see an overhaul of the automation system sometime, better looping features, and an easy way to route a midi controller to cubase mixers and effects.

Damn straight,. Who knows, ONE DAY Steinberg might re-introduce the looping/recording features which were available in Cubase 2 for the ATARI *sigh*

Way back in them there days, Cubase would keep track of layers of takes in a recording loop, allowing the user to keep sub-layers, delete sub layers and keep the top, keep all layers (or the topmost layer) unless new recording information is added in the current loop etc. Very flexible and made recoding e.g. MIDI drum loops quite a creative and painless process. In SL1 & SL2, loop recording is pretty pants really. You've got 'overdub' and 'replace', basically which aren't really that useful.

I think a MIDI-CC to VST Automation matrix would be pretty easy for them to implement too, Cubase is already aware of all automatable paramaters for any VST device, so why not simply allow users to map MIDI CC#'s onto them?

Royston

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:51 am

Counterparts wrote:
King of Snake wrote: I'd like to see an overhaul of the automation system sometime, better looping features, and an easy way to route a midi controller to cubase mixers and effects.
I think a MIDI-CC to VST Automation matrix would be pretty easy for them to implement too, Cubase is already aware of all automatable paramaters for any VST device, so why not simply allow users to map MIDI CC#'s onto them?

Have another squint at the manual. There's a section called 'remote controlling the mixer' where it's all explained. If you're controller isn't on their list of common control surfaces, you probably need to use the generic remote with which you can map out whatever you want. Can't say how good it is, since we've mainly been using SX for midi routing, recording & programming.

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:59 am

Aye, I've read that section. I think that in SL2, one can use the generic remote to control the mixer, audio and MIDI channels.

I think that SL3/SX3 takes this further, allowing control of all VST devices.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:16 pm

It seems as though I get an 8 channel AD converter with my purchase, any one else have such luck? If so, is it any good? I'm sure it was probably on par with the ESI group out of Korea that did this before.