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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:32 am
by niceboy
astroman wrote:wayne wrote:Has to be a hoax.
sure it is, no human being can be that deaf...
but The Bear is playing his role extremely well, so convincing...
I vote for Academy Award
meanwhile hallucinogenes seem to spread over network lines
... me reading s*ckback and f*ckback in modules on diagram... frightenig stuff
cheers, Tom
ps: I beat you ALL on feedback... because the powersupply of my micpres has feedfack
it is a real mighty PSU with 7 pounds of transformers and electronics
the feedback enables it to a ripple of 0.5 mV on a 24V supply line
and you bet that Telefunken never spent any Deutsch-Marks on Swedish licenses ever
We are not about who is best on feedback.
Thats been a lot of lies about that also when I worked for the radio.
This is just telling whats been unknown because its considered advanced,
and I really dont want to use all our analog gear,
because its really too much to carry.
Also I want to say thanks to the american professor in soundenginering,
that was leading us to this with analog soundmixers ,
exactly this with analog gear.
That was long ago for many years,
and also now new plugins been made here.
Thats why some people here will schould stop
telling lies.
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:40 am
by Mr Arkadin
Do you have any finished music from when you did use analogue gear? It would be interesting to compare to what you are achieving now.
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:57 am
by astroman
as I think about it... The Bear might be totally honest...
and describes faithfully what he's hearing
... years and years of rock 'n roll
after all they ARE a band, and have to... -snip-
when did you last have your ears checked ?
It can happen to anyone and it's a slow process and normally not noticed by self
cheers, Tom
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:59 am
by niceboy
Mr Arkadin wrote:Do you have any finished music from when you did use analogue gear? It would be interesting to compare to what you are achieving now.
Yes
We have mastered some thats on records.
but please we have three really great guitarplayers here now,
and the other guitarplayers are fired.
Thanks for asking.
We will let you listen to our new songs if you want with drums amplified
like this.
We have a lot to do, but you are right drums need to be stronger.
We dont use EQ on OH and Amb thats why feedback is so important for us.
We amplifie the darker parts of the drums.
I can say that the Cymbals need to be little bit stronger though ,
than on the guitarexample , but we just started with also RT and FT here .
We dont care if people attack us , we know that they are very wrong.
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:48 am
by guppy
Just need to have the good scope module :
you'll maybe need ADAT
you must connect it as: plugin-->ADAT (or optical spdif)-->feedback-->monitors-->ears
Crazy japanese technology !
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:57 am
by dante
I think he's onto something. Hes got more ppl here listening to his stuff than anyone else in the music lounge forum
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:55 pm
by guppy
It should be easy to have the same feedback effect for mastering
with this little things
But you need a stereo pair.
Just before recording the rock'n'rol band, you can add a feedback random bonus with
some other tools
More than creating biggest "Decca style feedback", it has some other characteristics that makes it comfortable for me, and works better in stereo too.
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:00 pm
by niceboy
dante wrote:I think he's onto something. Hes got more ppl here listening to his stuff than anyone else in the music lounge forum
Yes but we already proved to ourself that when having very strong feedback on the guitars,
On the sides we activated the bx cutoff and the BLackstar rythmguitar on the left side,
that we putted on 45 because its more strong in the bass and the Sibirian on the right side,
we by purpose putted more in the middle on + 28 but also lowered its volym.
Thats because its making a clear Stereo effect but can still be heard .
We proved that we dont need widening , but using the bx effect we can call it.
Sorry that we still could not mix in the drums with full timbre.
We need some more Peter stealing from Paul activity with one more feedback.
Thats on RT and FT together in one.
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:23 pm
by astroman
I think it's
Amazing... George Michael using feedback too
@Dante: that's only half of the story...
while I actually
listen to the tracks of other Scopers, the last visit to Bear's soundcloud took a mere 15 seconds
everything as expected, nothing changed... call me deaf if you like, please...
chears, Tom
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:23 pm
by niceboy
guppy wrote:It should be easy to have the same feedback effect for mastering
with this little things
But you need a stereo pair.
Just before recording the rock'n'rol band, you can add a feedback random bonus with
some other tools
More than creating biggest "Decca style feedback", it has some other characteristics that makes it comfortable for me, and works better in stereo too.
You are right feedback is used in mastering
and we actually have a mastering setup here in Xite.
http://www.xited.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=952
We are here using feedback together with Brainworx V2.
We find it very usefull both for live and mastering.
The reverb mix in you can skip when mastering.
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:26 pm
by siriusbliss
guppy wrote:Just need to have the good scope module :
you'll maybe need ADAT
you must connect it as: plugin-->ADAT (or optical spdif)-->feedback-->monitors-->ears
Crazy japanese technology !
wow, this is an awesome device.
Surprised noone has thought of this yet for consumer use!
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:40 pm
by niceboy
siriusbliss wrote:guppy wrote:Just need to have the good scope module :
you'll maybe need ADAT
you must connect it as: plugin-->ADAT (or optical spdif)-->feedback-->monitors-->ears
Crazy japanese technology !
wow, this is an awesome device.
Surprised noone has thought of this yet for consumer use!
If its ment to project your ears,
its not needed in this technic.
We can allways be the right level.
Thats the best part of online Stereo Mixdown,
or was it cleaning ears
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:55 pm
by niceboy
niceboy wrote:guppy wrote:It should be easy to have the same feedback effect for mastering
with this little things
But you need a stereo pair.
Just before recording the rock'n'rol band, you can add a feedback random bonus with
some other tools
More than creating biggest "Decca style feedback", it has some other characteristics that makes it comfortable for me, and works better in stereo too.
You are right feedback is used in mastering
and we actually have a mastering setup here in Xite.
http://www.xited.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=952
We are here using feedback together with Brainworx V2.
We find it very usefull both for live and mastering.
The reverb mix in you can skip when mastering.
Thats the first 16 channels.
If you want to do repeated actions,
you can skip the Optimaster also, and put it in for the final touch.
If used more than one time it would be too much for some.
I dont agree with that ,because you can use it without compressor also.
The separation part is very good.
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:00 pm
by dante
niceboy wrote:If its ment to project your ears,
its not needed in this technic.
We can allways be the right level.
Thats the best part of online Stereo Mixdown,
or was it cleaning ears
Bear
No, its called an endoscope, which is for listening to ppl who talk out thier backside, but such devices will be possible to embed once we have Scope6, then they will release the Endoscope6 ( 5 + 1 ) and that will be w/ surround backsides
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:12 pm
by niceboy
dante wrote:niceboy wrote:If its ment to project your ears,
its not needed in this technic.
We can allways be the right level.
Thats the best part of online Stereo Mixdown,
or was it cleaning ears
Bear
No, its called an endoscope, which is for listening to ppl who talk out thier backside, but such devices will be possible to embed once we have Scope6, then they will release the Endoscope6 ( 5 + 1 ) and that will be w/ surround backsides
English is not my first language.
I dont understand talk out their backside .
Can you tell me
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:17 pm
by dante
Its an english euphamism for talking bs
If you picture it (imagine) you might get the picture.
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:19 pm
by dawman
Ladies & Gentlemen..................Dante.
Please Stay Seated
Endoscope sounds like a killer Plug In......Literally.
I remember once I was running short of controllers, and thought if I jammed a Joystick up my rectum I could back up against a Cabinet and shake my Booty, while the joystick sent CC16 and CC17 to Vectron, giving some cool sounds.
It was during the tune by Procul Harum called " An Anal Shade Of Pale."
ANKYU
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:25 pm
by niceboy
dawman wrote:Ladies & Gentlemen..................Dante.
Please Stay Seated
Endoscope sounds like a killer Plug In......Literally.
I remember once I was running short of controllers, and thought if I jammed a Joystick up my rectum I could back up against a Cabinet and shake my Booty, while the joystick sent CC16 and CC17 to Vectron, giving some cool sounds.
It was during the tune by Procul Harum called " An Anal Shade Of Pale."
ANKYU
Are you using Peyote a lot there .
Just wondered because you said it yourself.
I just wondered because you had some hens cackling there
And I just wondered if everything is ok with you there
Bear
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:36 pm
by Mr Arkadin
niceboy wrote:
Are you using Peyote a lot there .
Just wondered because you said it yourself.
I just wondered because you had some hens cackling there
And I just wondered if everything is ok with you there
Bear
Sounds like an average Vegas night out.
Re: Using RMX 160 on drums
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:36 pm
by dawman
Im fine as my tolerance after decades of Call girls and Drug abuse has given me Bi-Polar disorder, which I attribute to my recent wave of compositional ideas.
I have always marched to the beat of a different drummer, usually 10/8, 6/8, 7/8 and 5/8.
4/4 timing makes me want to do Heroin, so I always hurry home to play some old Mahavushnu tunes, then I can relax until the next evening of torturous tourists yelling Freebird or Garth Brooks at me as if Solaris was meant to perform Joe Bob music....