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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:54 pm
by Mr Arkadin
Have to agree with the others - the drums sound really distant, which I'm sure isn't the effect you're looking for with this type of music.

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:10 pm
by siriusbliss
Also there about 2db+ of noise messing with the mix, and I'm wondering what program you're using to capture the mp3 because its very mono-ish.

G

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:03 pm
by niceboy
siriusbliss wrote:Also there about 2db+ of noise messing with the mix, and I'm wondering what program you're using to capture the mp3 because its very mono-ish.

G
Ok the last one was only ment to catch the bass and bassdrum , but this one is ment to show Stereo spread with three guitars and of course our heavy Kick.
http://soundcloud.com/bjorn-olofsson/us ... ar-and-one
The Siberian Tube is on the right side.
Mixing the drums better later
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:10 pm
by Fluxpod
niceboy wrote:
siriusbliss wrote:Also there about 2db+ of noise messing with the mix, and I'm wondering what program you're using to capture the mp3 because its very mono-ish.

G
Ok the last one was only ment to catch the bass and bassdrum , but theis one is ment to show Stereo spread with three guitars and of course our heavy Kick.
http://soundcloud.com/bjorn-olofsson/us ... ar-and-one
The Siberian Tube is on the right side.
Mixing the drums better later
Bear

Thats Extremly dull and sounds Terrible :/ Can you Post the Original Unprocessed Recording?

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:30 pm
by niceboy
Fluxpod wrote:
niceboy wrote:
siriusbliss wrote:Also there about 2db+ of noise messing with the mix, and I'm wondering what program you're using to capture the mp3 because its very mono-ish.

G
Ok the last one was only ment to catch the bass and bassdrum , but theis one is ment to show Stereo spread with three guitars and of course our heavy Kick.
http://soundcloud.com/bjorn-olofsson/us ... ar-and-one
The Siberian Tube is on the right side.
Mixing the drums better later
Bear

Thats Extremly dull and sounds Terrible :/ Can you Post the Original Unprocessed Recording?
There are some people here who think you are wrong and just a very dull person
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:34 pm
by hubird
must be you then :P

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:56 pm
by niceboy
hubird wrote:must be you then :P
Go and wash your mouth with alcohol.
Its stinking over the internet
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:00 pm
by hubird
niceboy wrote: Go and wash your mouth with alcohol.
Bear
That's what I'm doing at the moment: enjoying a perfectly cooled Duvel 8.5% :lol:

? did you get that I was responding to this part:
niceboy wrote: There are some people here who think you are wrong (...)

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:09 pm
by niceboy
hubird wrote:
niceboy wrote: Go and wash your mouth with alcohol.
Bear
That's what I'm doing at the moment: enjoying a perfectly cooled Duvel 8.5% :lol:

? did you get that I was responding to this part:
niceboy wrote: There are some people here who think you are wrong (...)
I dont care you are rude
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:56 pm
by Fluxpod
Post the Original Pure Recording.
The Processing you are doing is not good.

I will do a version of it if you want some advice but i need unprocessed audio.
Thats the one and only offer i am going to make.If you want to resume to dumb posts i will ignore the rest of this forever so choose wisely.
You have 1 try to make this right with me. :wink:

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:33 pm
by dawman
:lol:
Oh yuze guys are killin' me.
I use Feedback on Solaris, and it roars. Much better sounds than the stock presets, but they were unaware of the routing.
You simply need to EQ the low mid boom out of it a little as boost is already done form the slight comb created using 2 exact copies.

Love to hear a Flux Mix though. even if it doesn't nullify... :wink:

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:49 am
by niceboy
Fluxpod wrote:Post the Original Pure Recording.
The Processing you are doing is not good.

I will do a version of it if you want some advice but i need unprocessed audio.
Thats the one and only offer i am going to make.If you want to resume to dumb posts i will ignore the rest of this forever so choose wisely.
You have 1 try to make this right with me. :wink:
Why do you want a pure recording.
I dont need your advice.
On this recording it shows two reverbs.
http://soundcloud.com/bjorn-olofsson/us ... ar-and-one
One Pro Verb on the entire mix and one more on the Snare
That is Drum Plate and it made the Ludvig Black Beauty sound more dry and dark.
The rest of the drums is being processed now when we got that strong Kick.
Thats so easy to get when doing extra feedback on the drums.
The RMX 160 is going to be used on the drums as the third verb.
Later on Xited :lol:
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:22 am
by Fluxpod
K.Have fun Failing. :lol:
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Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:58 pm
by niceboy
dawman wrote::lol:
Oh yuze guys are killin' me.
I use Feedback on Solaris, and it roars. Much better sounds than the stock presets, but they were unaware of the routing.
You simply need to EQ the low mid boom out of it a little as boost is already done form the slight comb created using 2 exact copies.

Love to hear a Flux Mix though. even if it doesn't nullify... :wink:
Its more important to explaine the misunderstanding here.
Some think that drums are far in backround.
Thats not so in terms of what we do with Kick and I got no chance to tell.
Its the Cymbals and Hats thats really the right level here.
Just after the middle there is a lot of them playing,
And you can there compare , and the Snare as well as the RT and FT,
will have separate feedback channels now.
Thats because we dont mix , we do feedback.
So we will soon use the RMX 160 on the drums.
A little low cut on the RT and FT is needed when amplifying them with feedback.
Using the RMX 160 only on the Snare would be a good idea,
when doing negative feedback on it.
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:16 pm
by dawman
I only know Solaris feedback, and Ted Nugent.Hendrix, etc.
So I can't be a judge as I don't have a soundcard on my Internet DAW.
But I always enjoy the ruckus of Cackling Hens....

Maybe I can use that at the gig on Solaris Sample Oscillators.
Cackling Hens looped with Negative Feedback.
I'll give a try....

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:47 am
by niceboy
dawman wrote:I only know Solaris feedback, and Ted Nugent.Hendrix, etc.
So I can't be a judge as I don't have a soundcard on my Internet DAW.
But I always enjoy the ruckus of Cackling Hens....

Maybe I can use that at the gig on Solaris Sample Oscillators.
Cackling Hens looped with Negative Feedback.
I'll give a try....
Yes but I am trying to help you having both bx and spl back to Scope,
In the same time teaching here that feedback is working.
We just got that really strong feedback amp on guitars,
that we only get with using condensators in analog,
special feedback soundmixers.
That is why the guitars sound so strong three of them.
That is with help of external digital amp over ADAT,
using Waves.
We havnt yet made only one channel that strong ,
like an analog loadspeaker amp, working also for drum signals.
I will now try to use drum signals in thouse guitar channels.
Thats to see if its working at all on drum signals.
I tried it now it works also on drums.
I use only one Fat S on full to do that.
Channel EQ on full high cut.
I will put in one pic soon to show you.
First we move the Snare to one more STM 4896,
because we only have 4 channels free in the first STM4896.
Have to move all drum channels to the second STM 4896
Ps:
We use 4 stereo channels to do feedback only on Snare,
using Aux 1 and Aux 2 in the second STM 4896.
See pic :
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:11 am
by wayne
Has to be a hoax.

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:45 am
by dawman
Thanks for the diagram, once the Peyote I snorted kicked in, I began to understand and was amazed at the Mono Maker on BX's negative feedback capabilities..

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:24 am
by niceboy
dawman wrote:Thanks for the diagram, once the Peyote I snorted kicked in, I began to understand and was amazed at the Mono Maker on BX's negative feedback capabilities..
Here comes my promised exact pic.
Its about your advice before, about the modular mixers so I investigated the Fat S,
and I am still very much about trying the modular mixers in Xite,
but here we got super fat Snare using exactly only their new Feedback with built in filter,
and two of their new Fat S for the left and right Snare .
Just look at the new pic here and you can see that the feedback channels two and three,
are as strong as the incoming channels 1 and 4.
What it sounds like is obvious :lol:
Bear

Re: Using RMX 160 on drums

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:18 am
by astroman
wayne wrote:Has to be a hoax.
sure it is, no human being can be that deaf...
but The Bear is playing his role extremely well, so convincing...
I vote for Academy Award :D
meanwhile hallucinogenes seem to spread over network lines
... me reading s*ckback and f*ckback in modules on diagram... frightenig stuff :o

cheers, Tom

ps: I beat you ALL on feedback... because the powersupply of my micpres has feedfack
it is a real mighty PSU with 7 pounds of transformers and electronics
the feedback enables it to a ripple of 0.5 mV on a 24V supply line
and you bet that Telefunken never spent any Deutsch-Marks on Swedish licenses ever :D