Playing DVD's in Dolby Digital 5.1 surround with Creamware c

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Thu May 06, 2004 3:31 am

My onboard sound card only has analog In and Out.

When I connect a normal DVD player coaxial or optical to the surround receiver there are no problems. But when I connect my Creamware Scope coaxial or optical to the surround receiver, then I get the problems.

Post by **garyb** » Thu May 06, 2004 11:39 pm

is the cwa card in between the player and receiver, digitally? this MUST cause sync problems. who is master? how is sync transmitted?

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 12:32 am

I've connected the Coaxial Out of the Creamware Scope Card (Classic I/O) to the Coaxial In of the receiver. The Creamware Card is the master. I also set the sample rate to 48kHz.
When I set the Creamware Card to Slave I hear nothing anymore, so I guess it must be Master.
(There's no master slave option on the receiver.)

Indeed, the synchronisation most likely seems the problem. So how can I get a proper synchronisation? Should I buy the Sync Plate Expansion for this?

[ This Message was edited by: Ashkenazy on 2004-05-07 01:36 ]

Post by **garyb** » Fri May 07, 2004 1:12 am

are you using a digital cable or an audio cable? that might be the problem even if it's worked before..... how is the receiver set? maybe a different sample rate? or is 48k the rate of the source dvd?

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 1:23 am

48kHz is the samplerate Creamware recommended me by email. It's the only samplerate I get sound with. With the other samplerates I don't get any sound.

I use a digital coaxial cable, not a normal audio cable. And if I use optical, then I use an optical cable of course, which is always digital.

[ This Message was edited by: Ashkenazy on 2004-05-07 02:24 ]

Post by **garyb** » Fri May 07, 2004 3:15 am

have you tried other digital source/dest to your card? just wondering if the receiver is the only device that doesn't get along with your card...

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 3:42 am

That's a good idea, but unfortunately I don't have any other other digital source/dest.
I'm more into software then hardware, so I don't have many external modules and that kind of stuff.

Post by **garyb** » Fri May 07, 2004 3:50 am

maybe there is a freind who can loan you a dat or cd recorder or maybe you can rent one. then you'd know if you had a problem with the card itself or the receiver and the card.

[ This Message was edited by: garyb on 2004-05-07 04:50 ]

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 4:18 am

I'll look around for that....

Do you actually get good surround sound, garyb? Or have you never connected you card to a Dolby surround set?
If others would have the same problems, then it would be something for creamware to fix.

[ This Message was edited by: Ashkenazy on 2004-05-07 05:22 ]

Post by **garyb** » Fri May 07, 2004 6:08 am

no i'm sorry i never have tried. others have claimed success, though. i hope there's a solution for you....

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 8:27 am

Are these 'others' also members of this forum?

Post by **garyb** » Fri May 07, 2004 1:21 pm

uhhh, some are. i think kimgr way up in this thread told you he has no problem......

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 3:11 pm

Yes, I know he has no problems, but that's the only one. Probably there are not many creamware users who use the creamware card to play Dolby Digital.

Post by **garyb** » Fri May 07, 2004 4:21 pm

there is a russian user(kinda famous and mostly on the old creamware forum..) named Boris who was giving everyone tips about a year or maybe two ago. i was under the impression that there were a more than a few users of power dvd....

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Fri May 07, 2004 11:33 pm

When I look at the rate of how many have seen this topic, I'd dare to conclude not many play DVD Dolby Digital with their Creamware cards. Because else at least some more people would have posted their problems/suggestions.

[ This Message was edited by: Ashkenazy on 2004-05-09 12:56 ]

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Tue May 18, 2004 9:47 am

On 2004-05-07 04:50, garyb wrote:
maybe there is a freind who can loan you a dat or cd recorder or maybe you can rent one. then you'd know if you had a problem with the card itself or the receiver and the card.

I've tried it with my sister's JVC surround system. I got about the same problems. The music starts, stops, starts, stops etc. Only this time it takes a longer time between the starts and stops.

So the problem is clearly not the Dolby receiver.

Could it be a hardware fault on my Scope Card?

[ This Message was edited by: Ashkenazy on 2004-05-18 10:48 ]

Post by **garyb** » Tue May 18, 2004 2:36 pm

maybe. what you are describing is almost certainly a sync(master/slave/jitter) problem.

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Wed May 19, 2004 1:20 am

Yes, that's what I think too. But how can I solve it?

In the samplerate settings:

- I've set the Sync Source to S/P-DIF. (In case of Optical transmission I've also switched opt. ADAT to opt. S/P-DIF).
- I've tried the master and the slave option; it must be master.
- I've tried 32kHz and 44.1 kHz, which are too slow, 96 kHz is too fast, 48 kHz is the right one (but the sync problems stay).
- I've tried Coaxial and Optical transmission (with the right cables of course) but both give the same problems.

I wouldn't know any other possibilities to solve the problem.

[ This Message was edited by: Ashkenazy on 2004-05-19 02:28 ]

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:54 am

I know now the problem is not my Scope, because today I installed a pulsar 2 in my computer. Exactly the same problems occured.

mgranger · Post by **mgranger** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:27 pm

Did anyone ever get anywhere on this?

I am looking at using my PulsarII to output (coax or optical) to my digital surround amp.

This thread didn't really conclude!

Any ideas how it can be done?