The Future of Music - is there one?

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Post by Neil B »

Well, Paul - 5 figure royalty cheques?
Are you still interested in writing in partnership with someone? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

I agree with Nestor - music isn't simply composed or written - it is felt and the emotions, the events, the wonders of the world around us provide the moods, influences and feelings to turn our thoughts into music.
Nice post Nestor
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"What criterion in your opinion defines a true composer?"

This would be subjective and difficult to define. I just meant gifted.

"I remember reading an interview with guitarist Larry Carlton many years ago. He said that when he ran out of ideas, he just stopped playing for a few months. His technique would go to hell but when he came back to playing he would always find fresh ideas."

I don't know who Larry Carlton is but I practice his technique frequently. In fact I always find the longer the period of not playing, the better I get. My goal is to be able to improvise for 2 hours and have all of it sound fresh and interesting to listen to. When I accomplish this, I know I can sit down and write music without much effort.

Having said that, it helps to have chops so at points it is good to practice playing with enormous intensity to develop dexterity, and for electronic musicians, it's important to have a lot of expensive equipment and be computer literate.


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I fully agree on the 'having a break' method. Works perfect for me too, sometimes it's even enough to concentrate on a different instrument or get inspired by a new soundsource :smile:
What's funny is that such a mental process seems to follow exactly the same scheme as your physical abilities when practicing sports.
To get better it's absolutely essential to include regular periods of relaxing.

cheers, Tom
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the only common expression I could apply to 'Music' in general is that it's about a controlled generation of sounds. By whatever means and in any quality.

What's receipted in one situation as pleasant or appealing will most certainly not apply under different conditions.

The internet with it's immense speed of transferring news has changed the role 'Music' once had as a definition of trends or identification.
Something like that was spread together with record releases decades ago, but now either the style or the sound can make it 10 times faster and independently.

Music has a multitude of appearances, as a craftmenship, like Paul does it with his commercials or as an audio tapestry, like Ken recently prefered.
There's the usual dance stuff for checking out a partner or hanging around with friends and the 'stairway to fame', as in casting shows which are not at all related to any creative aspect.

A multitude of modern options, but nevertheless classical performance still remains.
I do like it a lot - it nicely complements improvisation and freedom with a system of discipline (torture ?) and fixed rules.

Just yesterday evening I had the pleasure to attend my favourite violinist H. Hahn with a Polish symphony orchestra conducted by a young Japanese - very international :smile:

It was a perfect performance (now I know what acoustic builders are for - the hall had a 'to die for' soundquality) and something like that is really a journey into sound - some concentration required (or the will to just close your eyes and let go).

It was amazing to see how ALL participants, not only the 'star' of the evening, won over the audience. Proved once again the importance of the conductor, who was really good in 'getting the spark over'.

There was not much difference to the emotional part of a rock concert, well - basically, considering the physical condition of the majority of the audience :wink:

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Post by Gordon Gekko »

blgrace, get out there and play live if you don't already and if you have the possibility. Or play your instrument.It might help you rediscover your music. kinda rebirth thing. we're doing it right now and man i tell you we are all excited about it :smile:
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I'm going to throw out something controversial.

I think money has ruined music. Of course this is a gross generalization but I contend that if all the labels both major and indie suddenly went bankrupt and also all the movie companies, tv, cable, satellite and radio stations and nightclubs playing the schlock that masquerades as entertainment, music would be much better than it is now.
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Post by paulrmartin »

I have to come back to Larry Carlton.

He stopped playing after he was attacked on his front steps and got his throat cut. It would scare the shit out of me to go out after something like that...
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http://www.larrycarlton.com made me think of http://www.larrycarlson.com , the latter being a graphical artist...
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That's too bad about Carlton. I have a friend who is a DJ and was attacked near his house. He has some brain damage which makes it difficult to speak or think but it looks like he will recover and I assume he will not give up being a DJ.

I listened to Larry Carlton and my comment is that he has great control over his instrument.

I enjoyed the Carlson site. This is an inspiration to me as I am a graphic artist. "Hills are Alive" really hit the spot for me. I think I could listen to this loop for 1/2 hour. I must be deranged!
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Post by deejaysly »

I must say, this thread is very enlightening. To hear that there are other people in the same frame of mind or have already been and found a way through it is most comforting (well, it is to me anyway) and I am glad to say that I agree with every word that has been said and have thought exactly the same recently.

It's just that I find these things hard to put into words. Funilly enough this could be an outlet maybe to one's advantage. Instead of putting it into words why not try and put it into music? Well, I suppose it could be a possible approach atleast.

BIG respect to you all!
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On 2003-11-30 09:44, braincell wrote:
I'm going to throw out something controversial.

I think money has ruined music. Of course this is a gross generalization but I contend that if all the labels both major and indie suddenly went bankrupt and also all the movie companies, tv, cable, satellite and radio stations and nightclubs playing the schlock that masquerades as entertainment, music would be much better than it is now.
Completely agree with it, it is just true!
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Post by Nestor »

On 2003-11-30 09:53, paulrmartin wrote:
I have to come back to Larry Carlton.

He stopped playing after he was attacked on his front steps and got his throat cut. It would scare the shit out of me to go out after something like that...
I can't believe it... I feel terrible, didn't know about that. Of course, I'm sorry for him cos it's a human being, but I'm also sorry cos he's one of my prefered guitarrists ever.

If you are a guitarrist and have never heard about Larry, hurry up, you are losing one of the greatest things in your life, great, great player and quite nice composer too.

Very sorry fot this... Hope it happend long ago and that he's well by now. I'm going back to read about it somewere... :sad:
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