i read a tread on creamware.de. someone bougth a shuttle and work with pulsar2 over that.
my 98se computer died yesterday.
any tipps for me. i need a new computer, what kind of komponents i ha to looking for?
thanx for your help.
bruno
shuttle ore not
there's a couple of variations of Suttles available. I've bought some of the elcheapos for office use (Celeron1300) which have a really noisy fan.
The AMD based totally suck on image quality.
AMD and PIV based both use a heatpipe, but the fan is still disturbing, depends on personal prefs if you find it tolerable.
The fan gets into something like a slowly swelling resonance and though the noise level isn't that bad, on such an expensive cooling system one may expect better results.
I've been in the shop when a customer complained and they tried to cure those symptoms and since the same dude sold me his 20" trinitron (demoed on the AMD version) I know about the video issue (the picture is crystal clear on my own system).
As you might have seen in the reference of the CW forum post, it's very tightly fitting.
Nevertheless it's a cute box for an attractive price, if you don't expect absolute top quality - and have some skills with the scewdriver
My experiences are with a regular PC reseller. In Germany there's also a company selling Shuttles specially for audio purpose, so possibly they tune them appropriately.
cheers, tom
ps: I refered to a different post on the old CW forum which contained a link to some pics on a web site. Obviously this AMD is without heat pipe and not like the one I've seen in the shop
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The AMD based totally suck on image quality.
AMD and PIV based both use a heatpipe, but the fan is still disturbing, depends on personal prefs if you find it tolerable.
The fan gets into something like a slowly swelling resonance and though the noise level isn't that bad, on such an expensive cooling system one may expect better results.
I've been in the shop when a customer complained and they tried to cure those symptoms and since the same dude sold me his 20" trinitron (demoed on the AMD version) I know about the video issue (the picture is crystal clear on my own system).
As you might have seen in the reference of the CW forum post, it's very tightly fitting.
Nevertheless it's a cute box for an attractive price, if you don't expect absolute top quality - and have some skills with the scewdriver
My experiences are with a regular PC reseller. In Germany there's also a company selling Shuttles specially for audio purpose, so possibly they tune them appropriately.
cheers, tom
ps: I refered to a different post on the old CW forum which contained a link to some pics on a web site. Obviously this AMD is without heat pipe and not like the one I've seen in the shop
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2003-08-20 20:03 ]</font>
I've read a few things where people have been complaining about fan noise with Shuttles. I bought one (SB51G) recently and the fan noise was quite high. Then I found the BIOS setting that makes the fan adjust according to the system temperature. Now my fan idles nearly all the time and is barely audible in my living room.
Alternatively, if your one doesn't have that setting (even after updating the bios), then this utility: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php can have a similar effect. I tried it out and it did seem to work fine and I think quite a lot of people use it with Shuttles.
On the original question, I wouldn't use a Shuttle with a Pulsar 2 mainly because a lot of peoples' problems with Creamware stuff seem to be heat related. With a compact box like a Shuttle, it's always going to be tough to keep that under control, particularly if you cram loads of stuff in.
You could always get a Noah and plug that in via USB?
Alternatively, if your one doesn't have that setting (even after updating the bios), then this utility: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php can have a similar effect. I tried it out and it did seem to work fine and I think quite a lot of people use it with Shuttles.
On the original question, I wouldn't use a Shuttle with a Pulsar 2 mainly because a lot of peoples' problems with Creamware stuff seem to be heat related. With a compact box like a Shuttle, it's always going to be tough to keep that under control, particularly if you cram loads of stuff in.
You could always get a Noah and plug that in via USB?
There is a new shuttle which is for the p4, it uses heat pipe cooling for the CPU so it supposed to be quieter.
this is a full blown i875 board which supports hyperthreading and all that.
it can take an AGP card and a PCI card.
the question is, does the PCI slot share IRQs with any essential board devices, i would hope thay would be smart and use a non shared one.
I have never heard one though, and it seems most internet reviewers have a pretty lax idea of what "quiet" is since they are used to reviewing AMD chips
this is a full blown i875 board which supports hyperthreading and all that.
it can take an AGP card and a PCI card.
the question is, does the PCI slot share IRQs with any essential board devices, i would hope thay would be smart and use a non shared one.
I have never heard one though, and it seems most internet reviewers have a pretty lax idea of what "quiet" is since they are used to reviewing AMD chips
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