I’M ONLINE, WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO HELP ME, if you can…

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:10 am

If there is no bips, there is nothing you can do... Sorry...

Even before you can boot on anything, or do anything, if you can't even lightup the display, it's the board... Seriously, i've seen this a couple of times, not only on my old damned a7v. I would almost put my hand in fire if it's not what i say.

BUT!!! In a last resort, would you try to put in your old video card? I know you bought a new video card, just try the old one.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:12 am

I don't know much about these things, and if everyone thinks it's the mobo then I assume it is.

But before giving up I would open it up again, take *everything* out, examine everything, then put it all back again.

Double-check IDE cables, power, and slave/master jumper settings.

Good luck.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:21 am

Nestor, you probably have checked it but there are two wires coming out of the power supply that power up the mobo; the big usual (12 pins?) one and another small one (think it's four pins). Check it out again, same thing happened to me once and I had forgot about the smaller one...

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spacef · Post by **spacef** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:45 am

I have a p4pe and i think i had the same problem first time i booted up. I think it was due to my mistakes connecting jumpers or cables (see the pins that are at the bottom right of the mobo).

Oh, yes, i also didn't plug the power supply cables very well, i remember that i had to open the case once and it was unplugged....

Normally, even without an os, you should be able to see the motherboard menu (but p4pe loads by default with an horrible bitmap that stops you from seeing the "post" screen, so you have to press "del" repeatedly when you swith the computer on.

Well, i'm not sure my advice (which is equal to "read the manual very well") helps, but i remember that i had a few problems for pins and jumper (mainly because i don't have any manual with the tower case, and ad tofind out by testing what was what, especially in relation to the pins for power, auto off, hd controllers etc, all that is on that pin board at the bottom right of the mobo, if i remember well).

I hope it helps a little....

It could also be a defect in the motherboard, why not.... (but my own p4pe works fine)

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Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:48 am

Nestor

I made a reply in your Powering up for the first time thread. To keep things focused I make a copy of it here:

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Maybe press Delete repeatedly while you boot.

And if that doesn't work, try and push the graphic card further into the AGP port. I have seen on several ocasions, that such cards realy need to be just in place. Even if you can not push it one milimeter more, it still may help - worth a try anyway.
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And as Garyb says, your PC is so fast, that maybe you just do not see the post. You can try the delete trick on several boot-ups before you hit the right split second. Try imagine you are a drummer playing 16th notes at 160bpm - realy, it can be hard with the timing.

However, you should get a message: "No bootable disc" or something like that. Also, maybe there is a jumper you need to change - something about reseting the EPROM. You can read about it in the manual. This jumper could be left in the wrong position from the manufacturer.

Many PCs give only one very short beep at a healthy boot-up. All those annoying small cables on the front. Did you connect them 100% right to the montherboard?

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:03 am

First: If your surroundings are nice - go for a walk. It doesn't matter, if it rains - only it should not be too heavy varm. This is a very important thing, when desperation gets you. Because, when you get desperate, you will not focus very well - and that way you may make errors or overlook a solution. You can also run or ride a bicycle - burning some calories can realy be good for getting a more relaxed feeling afterwards. But if you choose the athletic option - do it full. A small run will just warm you up - a long exsaustive run may be better for keeping you a bit down, when you come back. Running or walking - you probably know, witch is best for you.

Second: Do as Spirit says - just that has helped on many ocasions. But do this after step 1. If you have already done as Spirit (and others) said, and nothing has helped yet - Do step one, and then do all what they said again. Having a clear mind is very very important in problem solving. Don't be angry with yourself, if you get tense about this - just take another walk/run.

I hope everything works out for you.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:28 am

Unplug everything except the CPU and RAM. That includes the IDE cables - a faulty HD can sometimes stop a board's POST. If you get no beeps with the VGA card and RAM out, then you either have a faulty CPU (unlikely) or faulty motherboard (much more likely). Also, just to make sure, unplug the connectors from the case's power switches/LEDs and use a screwdriver to short the Power-Switch pins.. it may be a faulty reset switch connector that's causing the no POST (continuous reboot) - unlikely but still technically possible.

good luck

peace

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:25 am

Overwhelmed by your answers and good vibes guys… here I am after a night full of estrange dreams about a P4PE board …

I’m going to do everything suggested here buy you all, and will come back to tell you what has happened with it… First, the first… THANK YOU!

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:57 am

Maybe this is a stupid idea, but when you see nothing, maybe the monitor is malfunction and all other hardware works? Try to test the monitor on your other PC.

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:16 pm

Make sure the video card is properly down in the PCI or AGP slot. If not you get NO SCREEN. To get beeps the speaker wire for the MOBO must be connected. That is the four pin one. DO NOT SCREW MOBO DOWN TOOOOOOOO HARD. Causes shorting.

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Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:06 pm

Good things comes to those who persevere… believe me!!!

ZEUS IS WORKING EXCEEDINGLY, WELL

You CAN’T imagine what happened… I know you would not, cos nobody said anything about this…

Thank you very, very much for your help guys, the first song written in ZEUS, WILL be for you all, it’s a promise!

Thank you Planet Z, thank you very much (even if I found it by myself... he he)
Well, ok… I’m going to reveal the reason, the why, the “to be or not to be” of this matter, the “quest”… Was it the MOBO? No, it wasn’t! Was it the video card? No, it wasn’t’! Was it the… ok, I’m not going to torture you any more with this… he he…;

I was looking to the system, rather confused, cos I new everything was more than well, perfectly well done… I couldn’t believe it… but suddenly I shouted loud to my wife: “It’s the RAM”… To what she said: “The RAM? But this is Corsair, it is supposed to be very well tested…!” To what I said: “No, it’s not that… (extremely exited and happy) it’s the way they are installed, this MOBO does not accept DDR memory into certain combination of slots, it’s the only, THE OYLY thing I can think of… lets try it right away!!!”

Well… we booted it up, and yes… it was what we thought, fortunately… ZEUS said: “bip” and that was clear and neat! The BIOS Set Up showed up immediately, and so my wife jumped onto me, and we both started laughing and saying many things related to it, we couldn’t believe it was working…

That’s the end of the story, and they were happy forever and ever…

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:13 pm

Hi there Nestor,

Sorry to hear about your troubles. I had a P4PE before my current board (P4P800) and I had the same problem as you describe here. The solution was to clear the CMOS with the jumper on the motherboard. Look in the manual and it will be described. You have to disconnect the machine from the outlet and take out the battery on the mobo. Once that is done you have to set a specific jumper in the on position. Leave it that way for like 5-10 minutes. Reset the jumper to it's default position and put the battery back in. Reconnect the power and boot up.

That should get you into the bios with the failsafe settings loaded.

HTH
Greetz

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:09 pm

Well, that's it... Now, I'm going to keep going with the following step, from which I know as little as from the last one... Ufff, again, a new world... But isn't it exiting? Yes it is! So see you at the Tech Talk forum. Thanks again to everybody...

Post by **hubird** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:09 pm

On 2003-07-03 23:09, Nestor wrote:
But isn't it exiting? Yes it is!

It is??

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:42 pm

Sure it is, despite all problems, it's hard, but it really is exiting!

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:01 am

Happy for you man. You sure saved yourself some cash.

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:21 am

j9k · Post by **j9k** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:37 am

i would have never thought of that!!!!!! most people would have taken the thing back to fry's by now. at least you were able to figure out the problem most people don't.

j9k

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:52 am

Yiiipeeeee, have fun now and enjoy your big new system, ahh so many VSTi at the same time.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 10:48 am

On 2003-07-04 05:21, Immanuel wrote:

yes she is as strange as I am...

Now that I'm more relaxed, I'm going to finally scan some pictures from the wedding, so you can see her...