Hard MOBO - RAM decision to be done, help me to chose one pl

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:53 pm

Not many of us go to the Tech Talk area, so I’m posting this question here for more people to read it. Anyway I’m going to continue writing in the already open thread there, were I’m asking help to build my new system.

I am between getting the P4G8X at $220 or the P4PE at $110, both from Asus.

The P4G8X allows for Dual-channel DDR technology doubling the bandwidth of your system to be used only with DDR266. The P4PE allows DDR 333 memory and hither DDR ram as well, with single memory technology.

The P4G8X handles DDR PC2700 • CL=2.5 • Unbuffered • ECC • 6ns • 2.5V • 64Meg x 72 while the P4PE only handles DDR PC2700 • CL=2.5 • Unbuffered • Non-parity • 6ns • 2.5V • 64Meg x 64

The P4G8X utilizes de E7205 new Intel Chipset, which is slightly faster than the 845PE utilized in the P4PE.

P4G8X is 100$ more expensive than the P4PE, does it worth the price? Which one would you choose from and why?

Thanks for your answers.

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jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 2:36 am

Well they are both pretty safe bets. I think you'd be very satisfied with either of them.

The E7205 chipset is slightly faster but newer which necessarily isn't a good thing.
The 845 chipset might have a slight edge on stability since it has been out longer. But i am talking very slight differences.

I would probably by the E7205 because i am a tech junkie!!!

But how do you rate value for money? It is twice as expensive but only marginaly faster.
On the other hand if you take the price for the whole system the difference isn't as big.

The wisest choice is the I845 but the world isn't ruled by wise people

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:06 am

yeah, those 'slight differences' always make me laugh when I read the reviews in PC World.
The distance between the bright winner and a total looser is sometimes less than five percent.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:36 am

Thanks guys for your answers.

I think that one of the most important points here, is whether the ECC handled by the P4G8X worth the effort, cos the P4PE has None Parity memory. The ECC, as I have read in many forums, gives a more accurate working to the whole system.

We know that the difference between the E7205 – 845 is almost imperceptible to the user, but what about stability? This is THE QUESTION here, if the P4G8X gives us truly a strong stability, I think I worth it. If you are talking exclusively about performance and fastness, I would not even think about it, I would go P4PE.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:29 pm

AFAIK, ECC should be not recommended for Audio, as it's slower. I don't know how much...but this is what I hear.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:10 pm

Hi Alfonso, what’s up…

I’m rather surprised at this statement, I have read the opposite… could you please post the link or something to read about it? Cheers

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:39 pm

What does "None Parity memory" mean?

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:40 pm

I only know practical things about this, first of all: you can't mix the two types. Keep it simple; count the chips on each module, if there are 9, it’s a “Parity one”, if there is less than 9, it’s a “Non Parity one”. Get more that are the same.

Here you have this text, from Kingston Technology:

Please explain ECC supporting vs. non-parity.
Parity is a form of error detection, which can detect memory errors and halt the system to prevent data corruption. The term Non-parity evolved to describe modules that did not have error detection capability. ECC (Error Correction Code) memory is a more complex form of error detection which not only detects, but also corrects most memory errors while your system is running. ECC supporting means the system is capable of supporting ECC memory, but can also run with non-parity modules.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:21 am

I think it would be obvious by the name "error correction" that it would be slower. Did the price you quoted include shipping? It seems cheaper at http://www.mwave.com

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