Six-String for SFP announced

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 12:20 pm

I think you guys are right. If you think of it as a synthesizer it's great. Perhaps they should have made more controls and skip the guitar images! I might buy it one day but the price (like all creamware synths) is way too high. I really think if they made these things around $50.00 they would make way more money. I just spent $100 on the modular III upgrade and I am not prepaired to spend more for quite a while unless I see a really great bargain. How many of you would buy the 6 string at $50? I know I would.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 3:20 pm

Hey, how many of you would buy Six String if it was FREE!? I know I would!

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huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:24 pm

I am sure CreamWare would argue that the development time does not allow them to sell for that price and make it worth it for them to spend the time they do making new sytns. I do think that over $200 is high - but it is pretty much in line with other software synths that are available.

$50 is probably too low for them to see a profit (they would have to sell alot of them)- but maybe $150 would be a better price for this synth. They might not make as much off each purchase - but would probably sell more.

Steve-o · Post by **Steve-o** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 5:04 pm

This thing has nothing to do with guitars...horrible!

sandrob · Post by **sandrob** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:53 pm

agree, steve.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:45 am

Well it may not sound like a guitar, but judging from Kimgr's excellent "demo"
track (http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=17&3) I think it's far from horrible.

otter · Post by **otter** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:33 pm

whoa, i can´t believe that CW wants to sell THIS as a GUITAR

anyway , an interesting "syngitar" but way too xpensive for that, imho

otter

Post by **garyb** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:45 pm

isn't it naive to think that it could REALLY do a REAL guitar?the sound is good and unique.that should be enough.

sandrob · Post by **sandrob** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 5:00 am

i agree with garry too, so let's stop to compair 6string and real guitar, can be funny

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:53 am

I'm not sure that Creamware does any scientific studies on how to set the price. Just because they set the price high does not mean that price will give them the most profit. My gut feeling is that by drastically lowering the price they would dramatically increase sales more than enough to offset the lower price, it would also generate enormous postitive free advertizing here and in magazines. Nobody needs yet another virtual synthesizer they only want them. Perhaps a subscription service would be the way to go. Bill me say $20.00 a month and give me whatever comes out. I surely would go for that for years! I would be giving Creamware far more money than I am now and by downloading there is no transportation and no middle man, but this kind of thinking is too forward. I would not expect a company to be this innovative. They use the old models of business.

igge · Post by **igge** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:34 pm

As I've got the Vamp2 by Behringer (a guitar amp & speaker cabinet modeler similar to the Line6 Pod) I think the SixString is interesting. But as Line6 now got the Variax guitar with built in DSP chip emulating 20 or so classic electric guitar models down to the placement of pickups, tone controls & even the sound of the pickup selector switch, I don't think a guitar software/hardware plugin synth for either CW/VST/Protools/DX has much of a future.

Sure, the concept is interesting but still...

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:59 pm

i've put some six string presets in the preset page....

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Sat Feb 22, 2003 4:19 pm

What is your opinion on the amp/FX section for processing an actual guitar? Does it have good amp modelilng?

ericr · Post by **ericr** » Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:12 am

Is it possible to use the 6-string as a guitar sound source, ignore the amp section, and run the signal(as if using a DI box)into an amp emulator like Celmo's Guitar Amp Modeller? If so, Would this be a quality substitute to samples?

In other words; will the 6string presets create the basic sounds of a fender Strat, Gibson, etc..., that can then be passed to amp emulator?

Thnx for the help,
ericr

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:24 am

Is it the built-in amp emulator that is not that good - or the guitar sounds themself? I would expect that the amp emulator in Six String would be the eaier part to recreate, rather than an actual guitar sound.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:41 pm

My opinion is that Six-String is a very powerful synth, and has the potential to produce the warmest and most effective guitar and bass sounds apart of other incredible stringish abstractions...

the main problem is that it must be played considering that a guitar is something totally different from a keyboard.

but it has the potential to give great results.

for example: a typical guitar thing is to play a note on a string together with the same note on the string that's immediatly lower by bending up a tone the one tone lower note....

well, you can have on Six-String a bend effect related to velocity (for ex. on "Allan's Rock" preset).

you can copy on a single note with a velocity of 100 (not bending) the same note with a velocity of 126-7(bending), and you will get exactly that effect....

the real problem is the ability to make midi parts that are "guitarish" enough....

and also is good to spend some time on the presets...

asktoby · Post by **asktoby** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:34 am

I thought I saw a 1-hour demo of the six-string available somewhere, but I can't see it at the creamware site. Did I dream it?! I'd love to try this synth for an hour...

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:44 pm

The demo must be available in the CW web shop

wavelength · Post by **wavelength** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:15 pm

On 2003-02-03 15:33, otter wrote:
whoa, i can´t believe that CW wants to sell THIS as a GUITAR

anyway , an interesting "syngitar" but way too xpensive for that, imho

otter

these comments make me wonder where you guys are getting your pricing references from. so, by your logic, "synthguitars" should automatically sell for "xx" amount? which similar products are you basing this on? the "Six-String" is a complex and very innovative instrument, but I wouldn't have gone down the "guitar"-road with the marketing of this kind of device. putting pictures of guitars on the surfaces is a useless waste of GUI real-estate + it sends the wrong message to the user. this device should be presented more as a fabulous "plucked-sound" synthesizer, not a guitar-emulator. emulating a guitar on a keyboard is as much about how you play the keyboard in a more "strummy" on "plucked"-manner as it is about how good the model or sample is. there is no other soft-synth on the market that can do what the "Six-String" does, it's just marketed wrong, IMHO.

-Stephen

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:22 am

Agree