Samplitude 7.1 announced at MusikMesse

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New features: (thanks to trock :smile: )


VST and VSTi-Automation

Each track, AUX bus and submix bus in Samplitude 7.1 may use up to 16 automation curves for any VST plug-in or VST instrument setting with adjustable time resolution for automation values.

Track and object freeze - the Eco mode for CPUs

CPU intensive tracks, AUX bus and submix bus effects can be “frozen” in their current status (including all effects, plug-ins and automation settings) with the click of a button. A simple stereo audio track with a manageable CPU load is left remaining. This allows intensive arrangements to be realized or terminated on low-power systems and current-saving notebooks, even if the original project was started on a substantially more efficient workstation.

The ideal tool for cleverly managing the multiplication of usable effects and instruments!

The Freeze function in 7.1 works not only for complete tracks but also for individual objects or complete groups of objects in their current status (freezing all virtual effects and fade settings in so doing). This allows the CPU load to work at its most efficient, using every ounce of power it can afford for playing the pure audio file.

Optionally, object fades can be excluded from the freeze process and changed later in real time. With a mouse click, freezing can be waived for tracks and objects without any time delay. All normal editing functions, automation curves and effects settings remain available thereafter.

Root projects

As a special option, “frozen” tracks and objects in their original condition can be opened in their own project and edited non-destructively, without having to be “thawed out".

All the usual internal effects, plug-ins and even master effects can be used. Working on roots projects causes an automatic update of all frozen objects. This enables complex audio components to be constructed. Not only does it remain in its original state with the click of a button, but can also be archived in an unlimited history as a complete project.

Strip Silence

Individual objects, groups of objects or completely imported outside projects can be operated in Samplitude 7.1 using an adjustable threshold value for silent or quiet passages. With this flexible tool, for example, you can import material freed from silent or quiet passages that were created from alien software or external hard disk recorders –the original external multi-track project structure in Samplitude remains unchanged.

Further Features

Variable track heights
You can now change the height of individual tracks by drag & drop.

Glue tool
Audio objects and groups of objects can now be combined to create a new object.

New formats
Direct reading from MPG files without conversion. The DIGAS broadcasting format is included

Optional: MAGIX DDP XPort
A plug-in for Samplitude 7.1 that enables exporting in DDP 1.0/2.0 format can now be purchased.

Sorting effects plug-ins into files.

Controller support
Additional Samplitude functions can be remote controlled by Logic control and other external hardware controllers

Distance mixer
A new mixer skin offers enlarged peak meters and a longer volume fader. Playback levels can now be read from even greater distances, e.g. directly from the hardware mixer.





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For those who doesn't know what Samplitude is (ok, there are some :smile: ), a statement from Jim Roseberry from ProRec.com, dated from June 1998:

"Samplitude 2496 is simply a monster"

This statement is even more accurate today, in March 2003. New exceptional features (the list is very long) has been put in Samplitude Professional 7.1, and this soft is currently the monster for computer's DAW, at any prices...

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.n ... 110002D909
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What some others think about Samplitude that they just has discovered after a long experienced way in music, in another forum (you can listen to some musics, there):

http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread. ... #post92401
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Post by marcuspocus »

Well, Samplitude7 seem very good at a lots of thing, but even the guy in the thread you linked for us say that nothing can touch Logic for midi... I think the same. Samplitude seem pretty good on everthing else thou, i have to think alot about this... I really use a lot of midi, and Logic is the king of midi...
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IMO Logic is currently the best for MIDI...

And Samplitude Pro 7 is the absolute best for audio with no competitors except at astronomical prices (just think about what is the more expensive for audioworks to have an idea of the league in wich Samplitude Pro 7 compete...Forget Nuendo :smile: )

What I appreciate as an user is the quickness of reacting of the Magix Samplitude's developers for the support in the registered users forum. They are really good! And you can ask all the Samplitude's 7 users, they'll tell you the same: the support is amazing! We're all amazed that the developers are there, listening to us and answering quick! :smile:

All this makes me confident that Sam Pro 7 will constantly and hugely improve in the MIDI domain that is already usable!

And this is also a good reason why I have choosen the Sam for Rent option, because with the Sam for Rent upgrades are free! Considering what has already upgraded and the way these guys works, I'm totally confident that the MIDI part will come on par the Logic's one in a relatively short time!

Seen? Emagic announce Logic 6 with the "Freeze" function. Immediately Samplitude implement this good idea! And in the same time, VST automation! And others improvements...

I really think Samplitude is the winning solution! The product is too good, and the team is too good! The commercial formula Sam for Rent is too good!

What else can I say? I'm happy!...

And I strictly have neither "parts" nor "shares" in Magix business. I'm only a user :smile: A happy user that has found the best tool!

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Remember you can have a crossgrade to Samplitude Pro 7 by sending the first cover of the manual and your Logic serial number :grin: :grin:

So you can have Samplitude Pro 7 for 30€/month, and use Logic in the same time :grin: , with free Samplitude's upgrades...

I think Magix are very confident in themselves and the evolution of their product, to give this kind of opportunity...
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Yeah, true.. Like i said, lotsa thinking is going on here right now...
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does this mean that the automation of vst parameters is done in the same way as in logic, by drwing curves ? I work only with pulsar in normal mode and vsti's in logic.
The envirement is not that importent to me.
So this could be a serieus contender for my migrating to a different sequencer. I do not know this software but how does it compare to logic and cubase sx midi wise. Lets say i just want to Enter notes via my an1x or via my mouse. I want to be able to control draw the lenght and velocity with ease. And ofcourse i like to draw automation curves.
And does it loop midi object just like logic and sx ?... thats about it. If this is an ease with samplitude pro 7.1 i think the Room sim will give it the edge over sx..

I hope someone can give me some dirrection in this quest, because its not likely that i will be buying a mac. and with teh freeze function in sam i will not have to buy a new pc.. :smile:
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MIDI capability is quite limited, from what I saw with 7.0 demo. It records easily, and the loops can be chopped with ease. (just like objects, or in logic or cubase) The only problem is, that you can't overdubb. This is problematic especially for drums. You'll need to create new tracks for every single overdubb you do. This creates a bunch of tracks, and you don't have the "group" function like in Logic. (to put a selection of tracks into one) Maybe this is fixed in 7.1. It's quite critical.

The drawing portion is quite OK I think. Inputing with mouse is certainly logical. Haven't tried velocity drawing yet. Also, I wished the quantize wasn't so permanent. (you can't alter numbers after you've applied it)

But the MIDI capabilities seems to be growing, so it should become usable in the near future. But right now, I don't think it's worth the switch if you're on Cubase or Logic and need MIDI capability.

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imho,samplitude can't be matched for mastering and cd authoring.but other uses?.........
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I think it will be interesting for more people when it will really allow easy midi, automation of parameters (vst/i for ex) and CC drawing (like SX, that i upgraded and keep just for this....).
For the moment it looks like a kind of Digital Performer (which has midi etc but is better to work with audio...)

Is there a function to move samples/blocks/selections by different increments (1 sample, 10 samples etc... ) with the arrow keys of the Keyboard ? (that's THE protools function imho - i can't find this in SX (yet).

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On 2003-03-05 09:32, Grok wrote:
For those who doesn't know what Samplitude is (ok, there are some :smile: ), a statement from Jim Roseberry from ProRec.com, dated from June 1998:

"Samplitude 2496 is simply a monster"
Your statement is 5 YEARS OLD!!!!!
Ages 4 software :wink:

I´m looking for a statement like "Fast-tracker on Amiga is the killer" :wink:
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What about midi and song-tempo in 7.1?
Will there be an improevment??

I´ll have a look @ sam 4 the next time...

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On 2003-03-06 12:56, garyb wrote:
imho,samplitude can't be matched for mastering and cd authoring.but other uses?.........
Also the best for multitrack mixing, with its unique Virtual Object Oriented mixing...(allows CPU to be used very cleverly)

The best convolution reverb...



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On 2003-03-06 12:56, garyb wrote:
imho,samplitude can't be matched for mastering and cd authoring.but other uses?.........
Gary

IMO if your style of work doesn't include of includes sparse use of midi this is very ample tool...
when i first seen sampli in action it was used by hip-hop freestyle guy, who was doing all background beats from vinyl samples and loops. he was very agile with it and it was perfect for what he was doing, with clever samples management and control what is played from ram and what from hd.
and it was all in pre plugin era, i was using cake5 then...

unfortunately i rely on dark side of midi, so it was/is not tool for me...
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On 2003-03-06 14:06, spacef wrote:
I think it will be interesting for more people when it will really allow easy midi, automation of parameters (vst/i for ex) and CC drawing (like SX, that i upgraded and keep just for this....).
For the moment it looks like a kind of Digital Performer (which has midi etc but is better to work with audio...)

Is there a function to move samples/blocks/selections by different increments (1 sample, 10 samples etc... ) with the arrow keys of the Keyboard ? (that's THE protools function imho - i can't find this in SX (yet).
Samplitude is a very deep (but simple) soft, so I don't know all its features; I learn everyday and it's quite a pleasure.

MIDI automation, drawing CC: yes! Just checked it right now.

All audio editing done virtually or destructively at sample level

"Function to move... ...Keyboard ?": don't know yet...I investigate right now... (it makes me better on the soft :smile: )...


...uh!...I give up for the moment, haven't found the same exact function than in Pro-Tools! :grin:

But it's an interesting topic, I will ask in the registered users forum, and if an equal feature is not in Samplitude I'm sure they will implement it quick! (say...15 days for the next minor update?)

Thank you Spacef, you have point out what is perhaps a next improvement in the Samplitude ergonomy! :grin:

VSTi automation: included in 7.1, as written above, release at end of March

note: MIDI functionalities are deeper than I expected in 7.0, I just begin to work with it. I'm used to Logic.

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On 2003-03-06 15:51, BlackSun wrote:
On 2003-03-05 09:32, Grok wrote:
For those who doesn't know what Samplitude is (ok, there are some :smile: ), a statement from Jim Roseberry from ProRec.com, dated from June 1998:

"Samplitude 2496 is simply a monster"

This statement is even more accurate today, in March 2003. New exceptional features (the list is very long) has been put in Samplitude Professional 7.1, and this soft is currently the monster for computer's DAW, at any prices...

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.n ... 110002D909
Your statement is 5 YEARS OLD!!!!!
Ages 4 software :wink:

I´m looking for a statement like "Fast-tracker on Amiga is the killer" :wink:
:wink: :wink: :wink:

4 ages software later, right now, "Samplitude Professional 7.1 is simply the monster"

It has improved beyond the conceivable one

It has improved deeply, at every levels!



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On 2003-03-06 14:06, spacef wrote:
...
Is there a function to move samples/blocks/selections by different increments (1 sample, 10 samples etc... ) with the arrow keys of the Keyboard ? (that's THE protools function imho - i can't find this in SX (yet).
...
Just posted your question in the Samplitude registered users forum, Spacef :grin:
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Post by Grok »

For those interested who want to post some questions about the soft:

The Samplitude Newcomer board
http://support.magix.net/sam_demo_forum/index.php

Coz unfortunately I can't answer to all questions, and this is the better place to ask (developers comes in, too)
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