EKO : everything you need and then some more!

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:54 pm

Look at this : http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM03 ... R/eKo.html
http://www.opnlabs.com/products.php
http://www.opnlabs.com/ekochart.php

This will eat NOAH alive! Okay, it's native world and not SHARC chips, but... huh.

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 4:35 pm

Looks great! Much more features than Noah.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 5:17 pm

This gives me a hint of what it could be the next generation, we’re going to get mad instruments… What I’m waiting for, is the creation of a technology capable of doing with audio, most of the things you can do with midi, THIS would be THE discovery… And I think the power computers will have in a couple of years or so, will give audio this new possibilities, which will end up taking an important space in the new music-technology world.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:17 am

what are you talking about ?
the most foolish market entry of the year

it won't succeed:
expensive, unergonomic, any rackbased CPU could do at least the same and if one part fails you're stuck with your beauty.
Not all that glitters is gold...

cheers, Tom

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:03 pm

Computers bomb. I'll bet this doesn't bomb.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:08 pm

They say you have the choise which OS you can install, but if only they had a dedicated DAW OEM version OS, that could make it worth the effort...

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 9:05 pm

On 2003-01-30 15:03, braincell wrote:
Computers bomb. I'll bet this doesn't bomb.

It's a computer.
Running windows.

You think it won't crash???

-John

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 9:10 pm

And it's big, heavy and ugly.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:05 pm

Definetely, a SCOPE will do for me!

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Feb 01, 2003 6:58 pm

John Cooper:

Maybe I spoke too soon. I should have said being a totally dedicated computer it would be less likely to crash (I think), also the Linux version might not crash. Yes?

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Sat Feb 01, 2003 7:31 pm

I don’t think it is a bad instrument, it sure it’s a good thing. The problem is that being a keyboard with such components in board, hummm it’s a bit scary to me.

I mean, if it has common computer items, it has to be rather fragile for handling, travelling, etc. And if it is a keyboard to have it in a studio, I don’t see the point of buying something like that, when you can do everything, and MUCH more, with a computer, a SCOPE and a MIDI keyboard. This is the point.

Question: whom is this instrument direct to?

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:06 pm

I see a point to it. It would take a load off your computer so that your computer can do more of other things.

John Cooper · Post by **John Cooper** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:00 pm

On 2003-02-01 18:58, braincell wrote:
Maybe I spoke too soon. I should have said being a totally dedicated computer it would be less likely to crash (I think), also the Linux version might not crash. Yes?

this thing really is just a PC in a fancy box, running windows or linux. there is no reason to expect it to be any more stable than a standalone pc running the same software. sure, they'll have a known hardware config, which is great for driver stability, etc, but still there's no way to fully test a system which allows 3rd party software to run on it. one day you'll install one too many bad vst plugins, and everything will die, just like a normal pc

don't get me wrong, i still think it's a cool idea- not having to carry around a PC along with your midi keyboard. but i think that's really the only benefit. curious to see at what price they release it.

-john

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:35 pm

I surely wouldn't want to be the first one to buy it but I would be very curious about it. Of course the price will drop. The technology in my Yamaha VL70-M module was once $4,000 in an earlier keyboard over 10 years ago. The VL70-M is around $600 now.

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 6:28 am

I was waiting to find the info but I didn't find it : where is the mouse on that synth ? there no room for placing a mouse on the keyboard. Very bad for them if they forgot this.... How can they imagine that it is easier, to use a laptop tactil control for a musician ?? it's funny how good ideas can be wasted by unsufficient designs....

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 2:27 pm

If it has USB you can add a USB mouse.

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 7:06 pm

yeah but it would have to be optical to use it on your jeans

no room on the synth surface.... but i was cruel, it's a good idea this eko thing.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 7:37 pm

What I can see in here is that the forum has given us some objectivity and sound criticism through the time, and this is a good thing. Nobody can sell us something we know it will not work. This is something of the past.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 12:55 pm

I prefer trackballs anyway, maybe there's space to glue one on.