another live-improvisation with Creamware-mastering

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<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.ole-records.com/cgi-bin/down ... .ogg"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Strange<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects<BR> no copyright © 2002-2003<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> (if the above download-link does not work, try downloading directly from http://www.ole-records.com/onderbroek/ )

Another live-improvisation from us, silly fools, at 'de Onderbroek' in Nijmegen, Netherlands....
Taken from a couple of hours of DAT recordings that night.

No preparation, no song, no clue; just a bass, a guitar, drums and 'someone' with a Roland MC-202 and a cheap toy-keyboard with some built-in 8-bit samples (a japanese shouting "clap your hands!", a cheesy hihat and a chord-sound) with pitch-control :wink:

Not everyone's cup of tea again! But then again, we weren't drinking tea at that time.
No Creamware during the performance this time, though but only afterwards

Recording: pair of Realistic PZM microphones, straight to DAT.

mastering: PEQ4 and OptiMaster (trying to compensate for the fact that everything is recorded through 2 microphones above the audience, making the bad low-end acoustics of the venue very apparent...)
I used loads of compression on the mid frequencies to get some of the punch back.

NOTE:
This time I've used 90 kbps OGG-compression... even at this low bitrate, the ogg-file sounds comparable to a 160 kbps mp3 file!
IMHO there's no way of even getting close to the quality of ogg at any bitrate with other compression formats

to play .ogg-files with Quicktime/iTunes and OSX:
download this
just drop the plugin into the /Library/Quicktime folder
(information taken from: http://illadvised.com/~jordy/ )

To play on a Windows system:
Microsoft Media Player 7.0 seems to play .ogg-files just fine, but I'm not sure whether older versions understand .ogg....
Or use WinAmp

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hubird

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a pretty nice zoo...playing :smile:
good vibes and sounds again.
BTW the signal is rather unbalanced, one side is mutch louder all the time, is it the recorded file itself?
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Thanks Hubird!
This style of music must be typical Nijmegian, judging the geographical data of the people replying.... :wink:

yeah I know about the balance-stuff.... It's in the original recordings as well. Probably related to a combination of bad microphone-placement (left microphone at much greater distance from the stage than the right microphone) and drums/loud guitar-amplifier (overruling the PA :smile: ) on the right side of the stage that night.....
I tried changing the panning prior to compression but that did bad things to the stereo-image. Strangely enough I just discovered that panning the compressed version a bit to the left sounds right to my ears, even though the VU meter then indicates 3dB more gain for the left channel!

I'm learning new things every day...
:smile:
hubird

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aha, yeah left-right problems can create big trouble.
I remember, years ago I went to England, for a biking holyday.
After I left the boat in Harwich, I asked a guy on the street if it was true that you should keep left in England.
Right, he said.
So I crossed the street back to the right side again.
I never in my whole life saw so many ghostriders on the roads as in that holyday!
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:lol:
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