yesterday <b>i installed sonar</b> the first time on my winME-system. but all settings i did with latency and i/o-buffering and all that stuff could not save me from <b>that stuttering sonar did perform with just a few audio tracks</b> and midi.
last time i had that problem was four years ago, as i started with cakewalk 6 and an amd k6 with onboard-grafics... i changed my pc, and it was gone but... today i´d rather know why it´s happening than changing the whole pc...
<b>anyone out there using sonar (or older cakewalk) and knows what to do?</b> all buffers are as high as possible, i even activated read caching... (yes, also ULLI is as high as possible)...
much thanks for all replies...
Mo
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I have da same problem with Sonar.
Some old songs maded with Cake plays only
for some seconds and then the dropout occurs.
I can't understand that.I have i pci graphic
card (an old creative Banshee) but i don't think that it's the problem.
Somebody know more????Thanx
Wasnt there any issue with "must have" WDM Drivers for Sonar?. I think Pulsar 3.0/XTC will probably fix this. I would first wait for the WDM Drivers and see if the problem is gone.
no, sonar is nothing else than 'cakewalk version 10', and is like cakewalk 9 able to use MME drivers.
i got rid (already with version 9) of the dropouts increasing the audio buffer size, but that stuttering is not gone.
well, i´m quite disturbed... because i could work for days in a normal way, and then surprisingly it started to... how shall i explain that? it runs at 120 bpm at a few seconds, then the tempo (the real tempo, not the displayed one) drops, and is increasing again immediately, then it slows down again, and so on... it stutters (in germany we would say, it does 'egging' ... rolls like an egg)
i have to do a mixdown, and it´s just impossible. i will have to rearrange it in logic. most stuff i have as audio, but the whole bass and drums are arranged in midi, so it would be (...) work...
I had many probs with sonar recently, then I tried cake 9.03 (all full retail) and had the same probs, my system would just crash blank screen. I fixed it by uninstalling both programs, then removing all cakewalk folders, then search the registry for "cake" and deleting all entries that show up, then reinstalling both. . .I'm gussing that an older pirated version was scruing it up. . .also remember to run the test audio drivers applet evertime you change ulli settings (because you are changing the nature of the card) hope this helps. . .Ryan
you mean cleaning the whole system would make cakewalk run again? wow... just have left the work with a dualboot-system (installing windoze twice) behind me...
isn´t there a way to ensure cakewalk running fine again without cleaning? perhaps just klicking a few entries? nope, would be too easy, i guess... mpfh.
well... i have no choice, do i? i have to make this mixdown, so i´ll try...
(deinstalling all cake-stuff, and cleaning registry... hope that works.)
I have used Cakewalk 9.03 and I tried Sonar. Both feel like they were made by Microsoft. If you have them running solidly concratulate yourself. I rather use something I can trust.
I have uninstalled sonar(the Oxygene cracked version),reinstalled windows up the older
installation (without formatting the hard drive) and after that reinstalled SONAR XL
(original full version).
All works fine now,no more audio breaks with
only 4/5 tracks like in the past.
I know what to do when sonar (or cake) it's going "with jumps".Bye.... http://www.kwild.com
just reinstalled SONAR XL, and it´s running... but i can´t record, it´s talking of a 'full audio disk', though at the dedicated audio disk is more than 4gb free space...
you´re talking of an oxygen version, kwild? well, i´ll try also that, if it´s ok then... i don´t mind as long as i´ve got the original license.
but if i can´t get it work the next week, i´ll stuck with my old 9.03 for working seriously and try logic for something new...
neither my licensed version nor the oxygen version i downloaded yesterday work properly on my machine. the same error: audio disk may be full.
WHAT?!?! so i think it has to do with my machine, not with the soft... i fear i have to reinstall everything... (and it´s not clear that it works then)
two error messages make my life dull at this moment "can´t save recording - audio disk may be full" of cakewalk sonar and, even better because occuring without any action from myself, "asio system overload - the audio engine was not able to process all required data in time" of logic audio 4.7 (yes, cracked by zone, but i won´t buy a 800€-software if it doesn´t run on my system...)
hoping anybody has the knowledge to help me get away these messageboxes from my screen (well, one solution did work great, switching <i>off</i> the screen...).
pablo mentioned to search the registry for a line regarding to the chosen directory of audio files, if it´s the same as in the audio settings dialogue.
but i didn´t find it, so can anybody tell me where in the registry to look for?
I was crashing everytime I started sonar and I swapped video cards and it fixed my problem. The card was an ati magnum 16mb agp
(rage chip). I switched it with an ati all in wonder and problem solved : ) I also had the disk is full error and I just messed with the disk cache setting (try 512 or even higher) and enabling write cache. if you want to remoave all cakewalk regestry enteries search for "Cake" and delee these entries (there are alot) hope this helps anyone.
if your suggestion should be the solution, i´ll kill a vga card my first time... i built out the dualhead matrox, because i was sometimes gaming with that machine (three people, and three pc´s, but only two with 3d-cards...) so i built in a riva tnt 16mb card from creative.
building up the screen took also very long in sonar, totally apart from logic, which screenbuilding was very fast, just like cake 9 (i´m actually using cake 9 again, just to be able to work seriously again).
i´ll change the vga as soon as i buy new hard disks (the current ones are two years old, nevertheless they <i>are</i> able to record a lot...) this will be end of june.
i´ll report, thank you ryan.
Mo
p.s. enable write caching? i´ll try. but 256 is the highest value sonar accepts for disk i/o buffer...? or am i wrong?
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Also, it's said "Write Behind" can actually cause problems, I've never had problems with it disabled NOR enabled, but a few other "audio optimization" lists/sites/emails have said to turn this off (it can evidently hurt performance when recording in realtime).
I had a Creative 16meg AGP TNT in my Pulsar machine for about a year, with no issues. I think the most important thing for a Pulsar machine's video card is that it is AGP...
i had my virtual memory always set to a fixed size of 640mb (which is 2,5 times my physical memory), you mean i should experiment with that size?
i think it´s a 'no no' to put the swap file on the audio disk, so i guess the default path c: is the best place for it?
@ both, ryan & subhuman: could you agree to one setting, dou you mean the write-behind caching of windows or the write-caching of cakewalk?
yes, thanks for that. i had this "full audio disk" - problem with both, purchased and oxygene version. at the moment i´m working with cake9 again, untill all software i want is w2k-compliant... then settle for a more modern sequencer once more...
I was talking about the settings in sonar,
I enabled write cacheing under options>audio>advanced and set the io buffer sizer to 512. this solved my audio disk full problem. . .hope that helps, personally I am loving sonar.
thank you ryan, this was the only box i didn´t check (because i wanted to record tracks of five minutes, and i thought cache wouldn´t be useful then). i´ll try this.
anyway today i´m in a good mood to try again solving this, a few hours ago i got rid of my problems with logic audio... tried with 'larger disk buffers' (and the same for cpu). i just thought <i>'why don´t have a look on the system monitor while reproducing the situation when the annoying asio overload is occuring?'</i> and now i can run more then twenty audio tracks via asio and have two native reverb plugs in my dsp mixdown (while my cpu load shows around 90 %) - on a pentium2 with two year old ide disks (6 & 8 gb, 5.400 rps)
tomorrow i´ll mess around with sonar again...
but... today i´d rather know why it´s happening than changing the whole pc...
could you agree to one setting, dou you mean the write-behind caching of windows or the write-caching of cakewalk?