Brexit

[jksuperstar]

Wait, I thought that was all Fake News?

[dawman]

Actually MadCow succeeded in bringing ratings back to her dying statistics.
Comcast pays her lots of cash so she had to do something.
Even if it only lasted for a day.

And it's all fake news.
People without music in them need something to do...
The 2 law firms from D.C. provide them plenty of entertainment, and fake news keeps it alive...

[Sounddesigner]

Wait, I thought that was all Fake News?

The Whitehouse confirmed that the Tax return was legit, so it's not fake news. It was illegal for someone to give the tax return to Rachel but being illegal seems to not concern people these days, only winning the political war at all costs, even if they destroy the country in the process.

But sure there is MASSIVE fake news being put out. Largely because our main media news companies are controlled by political parties with political agendas. The far left seems to be the worst and most desparate and most dishonest ATM, but the far right are far from angels as well. The media corruption is definitely a international problem just as the destructive ideologies are internationally shared. Nothing like good media brainwashing and stupefying to keep people controlled and to keep the puppet-masters in power while slowly whittling away at democracy, etc. Sad part is I'm sure that disinformation, false-accusations, personal-attacks, etc will only get much worse before getting better. The good news is that the American people (and the British people, etc) are usually a little smarter than the extreme ideologues and corrupt Media, and thus I'm sure ultimately we'll be OK. We have to lock horns with each other as a divided country every so often threw-out time but usually end up a better Nation once the dust settles.

[dawman]

True, and here's a misconception about another form of control.

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[dawman]

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This is hilarious.
Anti Trump remake of Carlos Jobims classic bossa nova.

[Sounddesigner]

Terrorism strikes London the heart of Great Britain, right outside Parliament. 4 dead and 20 injured after a person drove a car into a crowd of people.

The irony is many in Scotland did not want to follow Britain in its Brexit from the EU and were going to have a meeting today to set up a referendum but this terror attack caused them to postpone that. I doubt the Scottish people will desire to stay after looking closely at everything going on and attacks like these.

I think as time passes more people see the harm in these open-border policies and start to look at their so-called leaders and other advocates for open-borders and other harmfull policies as crooked anarchists. At some point political rhetoric and casuistry are outweighed by tragic events and the wiser Nations thus push for change, since making revolutionary change at the right time threw-out history is what made them successful and wise in the first-place. These wise Nations have a spiritual Identity and set of values that won't permit the direction they're being pulled into ultimately and they have a sense of Nationalism and a indomitable spirit to them. These so-called leaders either don't know the people they govern or trying to force the wrong ideology on them anyways to change them into something they're not for their own selfish political benefits or both.

They can come with all the false-arguments they want to keep the broken paradigm but one thing I've learned is that the truth comes out in the end and good Nations eventually make a change for the better while the anarchists and denialists who tried to lead their Nations the wrong way are placed on the wrong side of history.

Stay strong Great Britain! You are a good and special people thus I know you'll ultimately be fortunate and fine.

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[Mr Arkadin]

Yeah, we'll be all right.

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[dawman]

Always are.

[pastor]

I doubt the Scottish people will desire to stay after looking closely at everything going on and attacks like these.

I'm not trying to stir this up, but the terrorist was born and raised in England, so border policies wouldn't done much of a difference.

[Sounddesigner]

I doubt the Scottish people will desire to stay after looking closely at everything going on and attacks like these.

I'm not trying to stir this up, but the terrorist was born and raised in England, so border policies wouldn't done much of a difference.

That's not necessarily true. Politicians like to obfuscate by putting the focus on only part of the picture and not the whole picture. Radical islam as a ideology and religion was NOT BORN IN ENGLAND and itself is foreign born. There are many ways a open border can harm you not just with new immigrants/refugees wich sadly is only part of the picture.

1. HEREDITARY- The hereditary factory is at play and we have incontrovertible evidence of this here in the USA. Was the terrorist in England who did this horrible act a child of immigrants from some radical country? I know of at least 4 Radical islamists terrorist here in the USA who were born here but their parents weren't and in some cases there is evidence that the parents had radical views even tho they did not commit the acts. The pulse night club killer, one of the San bernadino killers, the Samalian who killed in the minnesota mall and the guy who build bombs and placed them in New York all were born here in the USA but their parents were not. I've been saying all threw-out this thread that the problem doesn't end with the first generation of immigrants and refugees but that their children has PROVEN to be problematic. To be a smart nation we cannot be short-sighted like our leaders and must analyze and look at problems more deeply. A very large percentage of our recent mass killers here in the USA were children of immigrants/refugees from radical regions of the world wich are some countries in the Middle East. If the parents were not brought from what is obviously troubled regions of the world then the radical children wouldn't be here and thus lives would have not been lost, we have to be far-sighted not short-sighted when dealing with these things. There are radical countries were children are taught to hate the Western Civilization in schools and other places and sometimes THE CHILDREN ARE MADE INTO SUICIDE BOMBERS.

2. Did the mass killer in England live a isolated/reclusive life or did he go to a radical mosque or have radical friends from radikal-countries? Again, radical islam as a ideology and religion WAS NOT BORN IN ENGLAND AND IS 100% FOREIGN. And like all other religions in the world it spreads threw Proselytizing and the hereditary factor.

3. INTERNET: The internet is a way to cross borders thus radical web sites may need to be shut down, altho I'm not that fond of government censership, but again radical islam was not born in England or American it comes via people and internet.

The people in England are not naïve and are going to eventually consider the factors I mentioned, that's inevitable.

As far as this terrorist who just struck London goes I need more of the facts before I would think open borders had nothing to do with this, especially since I know that Radical islam itself is foreign born. And even if for some strange reason this particular terrorist in London was not foreign influenced directly threw immigrants/refugees this terrorism does not look like it will stop and if not than I'm sure future ones will be tied to a 1st generation refugee or a immigrant from a radical country; here in the USA there is over 300 refugees right now under investigation for suspected terrorist ties/activities.

[pastor]

While i can agree that my statement might be a bit hasted only one day after the attack, I respectfully disagree with your line of argument. But I think I will leave it with that at the moment.

[dawman]

We must make cars illegal.....

[Sounddesigner]

Looks like Donald Trump has just launched a military attack on Syria. Trump just had a Syrian air-base bombed because their leader Asaad used WMD's on his civillians.

I don't think I like the air-strikes being done by Trump. I also hate it that the first MAJOR thing Trump is doing as President is a act of war abroad rather than solve any of the MANY domestic problems i.e. economic problems, national debt, illegal-immigration, confirmation of Supreme Court Justice, Rising Crime, etc. Seems like he's starting to think like the Bush administration and that's not a good thing! I don't like war to be the first major thing and I'm not sure Syria makes sense to get involved with in that way given all the dynamics going on in it. The air-strike is suppose to be a one-off and the non-regime-change policy Trump has long had is still going to be adhered to, but this one-off can lead to bigger and worser things such as a bad response from Russia. Hopefully it doesn't esculate.

We must make cars illegal.....

Yea, the anti-gun political camp can no longer blame guns for terrorist acts, especially since cars and planes have been used to kill far more people. Right now cars are a primary weapon of choice it seems. After the car attack in London some other terrorist attempted another car attack in Brussells I think but it was foild. I'm sure they will continue to try and take gun rights but these car and knife attacks seriously destroys their arguments. When bad guys want to kill they don't need guns and will use whatever means they have, good citizens need guns to stop them.

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[pastor]

I don't think the "anti-gun lobby" is specifically is aiming directly at terrorist attacks, more on crime in US itself, like murders. I see Chicago is close to 150 people shot and killed this year up til now. For a city of a couple of millions, that's pretty scary. I don't have the number on people getting murdered by cars, but seeing 145 of 154 homicides where gun shots, i doubt cars is the preferred murder weapon there at least.

And regarding "..since cars and planes have been used to kill far more people", could you explain what you base this on? It's an honest question.

[garyb]

actually, places like Chicago have the toughest gun control laws. i live in a state where there are almost no gun regulations and people are rarely, if ever, involved in gun violence like that. the fact is that we don't need to be protected from ourselves.

[dawman]

Trump cracks me up.
Reporter says "Assad considered American Navy was an act of aggression" Trump says "ya think?"

Starting to like the guy a little more, especially if it pisses off Liberals, Putin, Assad...

[Nestor]

I am back as I said I would if war started:

THIRD WORLD WAR HAS STARTED!!! This is going to complicate in the following months and more countries are going to get involved.

[pastor]

By the way, it seems Sweden just had an attack by truck today. No overview of casualties yet.

[Sounddesigner]

By the way, it seems Sweden just had an attack by truck today. No overview of casualties yet.

There was 5 people just killed in the truck attack in Stockholm Sweden. It has not been confirmed to be radical islam yet but it smells like it.

[Sounddesigner]

I don't think the "anti-gun lobby" is specifically is aiming directly at terrorist attacks, more on crime in US itself, like murders. I see Chicago is close to 150 people shot and killed this year up til now. For a city of a couple of millions, that's pretty scary. I don't have the number on people getting murdered by cars, but seeing 145 of 154 homicides where gun shots, i doubt cars is the preferred murder weapon there at least.

Chicago had more murders than New York and LA combined and they are bigger cities regarding population. There are MANY places with better murder rates and that have guns in the USA wich only suggests that it's the environment not the guns wich is the problem. Bad enviroments become breeding grounds for the homicidal and criminally-insane, guns are just a convenient method to fulfill a desire that is there whether a gun is or not.

Chicago had many bad policies in the past that combined to form a bad environment wich breeds malefactors such as building SkyScraper Housing Projects buildings all over the city wich were difficult to police due to their designs. People need to be spaced out not crammed together by the thousands in small places or you'll get more crime, unsanitary issues, and lack of pride without home ownership. Many of the projects were huge complex's with 20 or more Skyscraper buildings around 17 stories I think and there was MANY of them all over the city e.g. Stateway gardens, Rockwell gardens, Ida B Wells, Henry Horner Projects, Cabrini Green, The Reds, The icki's, Robert Taylor Homes, etc etc . Cities already have more of these murder,etc type crimes than suburbs and Rural areas and projects are like a uber-city within the city. You don't cram thousands of people (many of wich have issues) inside small spaces and expect problems not to occur, and these problems were made worse with welfare policies wich give no incentive to work and build good character; plus a unfair Criminal Justice System and mis-treatment by police wich breeds hatred for Authority and no-love for society. Chicago politicians after about 100 years finally realized these SkyScraper projects were too problematic and thus started destroying them in the early 2000's but by then the damage was already done cause many socio-paths had been bred and spread threw-out the city cause of them and a generational bad-culture is now being passed down to the younger generations as they come. The projects were a unfair and stupid way of dealing with people during a racially segregated time and the problems they brought was easily foreseen.

The under-lying issues in a city has to be addressed i.e. culture, lack of education , poverty, unfair Criminal Justice system, improper policing, etc. Bad culture, poverty, etc are just like Radical-Islam in that they are hereditary. You can take guns away in Chicago but that would not address the under-lying issues and crimes would continue (many of its crimes lead to death; some other bad lifestyles lead to plenty of deaths as well such as drug-use, fornication, etc but often you don't hear much about those things).

And regarding "..since cars and planes have been used to kill far more people", could you explain what you base this on? It's an honest question.

When it comes to terrorism BY FAR more people have been killed by vehicles compared to guns here in the USA and I'm sure in all Western Nations when combined. Everyone keep forgetting about the 9/11 attack here in the USA wich lead to almost 3000 people killed by itself by airplanes. All other terrorist acts on American soil add up to about less than 200 people since 2001 so gun terrorism isn't even comparable to vehicle. IIRC there was 13 people killed due to terrorism in the UK since 2010, if you add all the gun terrorism acts from Germany, America, France and UK, etc it BY FAR would not be comparable to vehicles due to 9/11. Plus you have trucks, cars, knives and bombs being used in those Nations to add with 9/11 airplanes. And as we just seen another truck attack just happened in Sweden.