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Nestor wrote:no links for that tragic comedy, it was only an expression to say that, indeed, there was violence and quite a lot, but in the streets.
I know this is nitpicking, but regarding violence in the streets I've only found reports on property damage and clashes with police. Was any "innocent bystanders" hurt? Or pissed and shit on for that matter?

Not to take the points from cool story away, but other than the all-dressed-in-black kids fucking things up it seemed quite peaceful to me.
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actually, there has been quite a bit of mayhem.
these people appear to be employed by various Soros-funded political groups that claim to be helpful ones, but are sponsoring madness for some reason.

all news sources have had reports of violence and mayhem. the black hooded folks are on a payroll for sure. i've even seen people set a woman's hair on fire just because she was a Trump supporter. what's funny is that they are calling Trump a "Nazi". he is a potential dictator, but he's far from a Nazi. his son-in-law is a orthodox jew and his daughter converted to Judiasm. he's said to be a misogynist, but he has many women in high levels of his entourage. he's also always had good relations with black folks. it is KKK members who chose HIM, but he has never endorsed them. it's not that i trust Trump in any way, but he's not the guy that the protesters have made him out to be. he may be worse than they think, but it won't be for the same reasons that are popularly given for hating him.

this isn't necessarily any kind of proof of Trump's righteousness or anything like that, but someone is definitely trying to instill an aura of doom and violence. it's SO exaggerated and full of panic that i'm not surprised to see things get out of hand.

it's like Putin. Putin is DEFINITELY a gangster and a bad man to cross, but i think that he's actually helped Russia. kicking out the Rothschild bankers has got to be a major part of the reasons that he gets such bad press. if he was the UN's bully, and loved the World Bank, then i think he'd be a respected figure. since he's a loose cannon, there is a lot of power working against him. i think Trump is similar in this way. the difference is that Trump is more self-serving than Putin. Trump will likely cut deals that will slow many plans down, but which probably won't ruin any plans of power outright. let's face it. REAL power is much bigger than that of an administrator like the president of the US.
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Several groups of specialized journalists around the world have studied the Trump case in regard to how the media treated his public persona in the USA, and they said unanimously that there have never been such a ferocious attack against anybody in the USA political history through mainstream media.

I know by fact that, despite all the negative and sometimes severe approaches Trumps takes to lead, there is no possible comparison with the Clinton! That is to say: no matter how Trump might be or might do, it will be years light better than the original NWO criminals from the other side. Trump is an “angel” compared with Obama, and Obama is a “good human being” compared with the Clinton. The Clinton and what they represent and who they serve, are at the bottom line of the evilness of the human spirit.
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Trump has already done a lot more than Obama, Bush and the do-nothing Congress we had for the last 16 years. He has just signed MANY Executive-Orders to start building the wall on our southern border, to stop sanctuary cities, to end funding to foreign organizations that do abortions, to stop taking refugees from radikal countries, to end the TPP Trade deal, etc. Plus he has been creating jobs and will appoint a really good Supreme Court Justice next week. His arrival seems to be de-politicizing Government agencies that have become too partisan over the years wich is good.

Trump seems to be honoring his campaign promises so far and is trying to do a lot of fullfillment from the get go. It's rare for politicians to live up to their promises and Trump is doing this so far. People who work for Trump and are loyal to him he tends to stand by and defend cause that is a virtue he values a lot it seems, likewise I think Trump values being loyal to his voter-base and keeping his promises, atleast to some extent. Trump knows the establishment tried to bring him down and don't like him thus his voter-base is all he truly has. The liberal media hates him to and he is a nightmare to the democrat politicians cause he is not a pure-republican ideologue but more pragmatic and even shares some of the democrats beliefs; and will try to impliment some of the democrats policies thus potentially stealing some more of their base. Trump broke threw the blue wall during the election and stole some of the democrats voter-base when he won Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and plus competed well in other Rust-belt states. Trump has both Democrat and Republican traits thus he is a nightmare for many in Washington and if he has success he will win election again and may further harm the Democrats and change the Republicans. The democrats already have been fighting Trump every step of the way mainly cause they fear him having success (wich he will have to some extent if he honors his promises to the best of his ability). Trump literally was a Liberal Democrat 10 years ago and most of his life so the democrats are sort of getting it from one of their own :P .

For the record I don't want no serious harm or destruction of the democrat party I just want them to get away from the far left where they seem to have drifted. I want them to change their Secular-Fascism platform wich is a bogus ideology that doesn't work. I believe we need both parties and more for a healthy democracy. And plus the Republicans had become as well Fascist elites who go to Washington and don't try to fullfill any of their campaign promises just induldge in self-enrichment or some other dirty-deed. Both parties have gotten extremely bogus over the last couple decades.

The Media is always trying to make Trump look bad and watch his every move, this is kinda a good thing cause it may keep him honest/operating legitamitly. The media would've been too friendly with Hillary Clinton and not try to shine a light on her dark activities or hold her accountable for dirty-deeds. To a extent it's great that the media is attacking Trump every chance they get cause it may help keep him from crossing the line.


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I like the fact that Trump has chosen Ajit Pai as the new chairman of the FCC, something that, to me, kind of blows away the idea that he is a racist. Perhaps he is a racist to some extent, I don't trully know about this particular topic related to his life, but this new chairman is a pleasant surprise to me.
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Nestor wrote:I like the fact that Trum has chosen Ajit Pai as the new chairman of the FCC, something that, to me, kind of blows away the idea that he is a racist. Perhaps he is a racist to some extent, I don't trully know about this particular topic related to his life, but this new chairman is a pleasant surprise to me.
Ajit Pai is a bad choice plus nothing Trump has done or will do will ever make up for the enormous damage he will cause this nation and the world.
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I really like to see you participating here Brain, I really do, but, common… do you realize how closed minded your statements are this time? Let us be a little more realistic.

I pointed out Ajit Pai in regard to Trump apparently not being a racist, which is something I would celebrate from anyone. Now, what Pai will actually do or not do, I think it is way too early to judge. Give him at least 6 months in power to judge the man behind the FCC.

How would you know, already, that Trump will do nothing, and what he is going to do in the future? Your preconception is too strong and absolute, it makes no sense. We should judge based in what we have already seen, or based on some serious information.

As far as it goes, he is already moving some serious strings in favor of USA citizens, like getting out of the TPP. Right now, in Argentina, for instance, lemons have doubled their price because Trump, through his moves, has stopped Argentinian lemon exportation to the USA. Should I hate Trump because of this? Of course not! He has the right to protect his country and try to fix the enormous economic problems you have there, which are really, really disgraceful. I will pay more expensive lemons, but this will help your country.

I don’t say Trump is perfect or anything like that, I will go even farther, I think he will end up getting us all into an international war because of his extreme pressure onto the whole of the market and Islam and restrictions, etc., and because the “shadow government” cannot be undone now, it is too late, and this state of “democracy” is a false appearance. Adversity is upon us because of all of this, nevertheless, the man is working hard to help you, and you should see it with an open mind to the new.
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If you read Trumps book you'll notice that phase has already been applied and succeeded.
He is writing another book and we are currently in it's preface.

He is like Mike Tyson.
Everyone thinks they are prepared and have a little list of talking points to try and use against him, and go from one to the next, but he interrupts and distracts, attacks and just takes control away from his opponents.

Everybody's has a great plan until they get punched in the face.

Like it or not we are in a contact sport where the politically correct have been disarmed.
This is a hockey brawl with a brute who hates losing.

Lots more fun than being bored to death by condescending shaming style speeches Obama put us to sleep with.
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Trump have said NO to Middle East refugees for 4 months, wow! :o He is really taking incredibly rigid steps to better its own country, and to better it fast. Then millions of illegals will be out soon too, particularly those who are always messing around and creating problems. He is pretty harsh for sure and this is going to create a whole lot of pain, but I understand it absolutely. Many of those immigrants have also created a lot of pain in the past to their fellows, they are sort of paying back what they owe to the country, not everybody, of course, but there are many that have been there just having fun with the country, and this is bad. Of course, I am talking about the USA as an outsider, as a foreigner, but even as a foreigner I totally agree with making it somehow easier for those rightly living in the States, you will have more jobs and less problems.

I remember when I was living in Europe, yes… the behavior of some Latino people ashamed me so much at that time that I wished they were deported, they would never ever adapt to the surroundings, the language, the people, nothing... They pretended for the country to adapt to them, so egoist they were! If you go to a country, brother, the least you can do is to adapt to the culture you are in and respect it, particularly when this culture is giving you a much better way of life. Of course, there are good and bad people in every nation, in every organization, in every club, religion, etc., we cannot generalize about anything too much.

It is said that about 11.000.000 people, most of all Mexicans, could eventually be deported from the USA in the following months. This is a real revolution! A very painful one!

If you remember my words, I have always said that USA was becoming sort of a world government. You may like or dislike this concept, this is not the point. I am talking about practical repercussions of everything that is politically orchestrated from the presidency of the USA. So as you can see, my concern about the USA kind of governing the world, it was a real, objective one. Every political step taken lately by the new administration, is shaking the rest of the world around, I can definetely see it in here.

As I have already said, lemons are more expensive already, here in Argentina, because of the TPP changes, and there are many more things happening, economically, legally, and in the world of importations that are changing because of what is happening in the USA, which bring us BIG changes, I mean, BIG!!!

I don’t know how far Trump will go and how far will all this influence other countries, but at least, I am glad to see that the BIG NET of the Bilderbergs is being bothered and even stopped, something that seemed impossible just a few years ago... We are leaving unprecedented historical moments never seen in the whole of our modern history.

Now, will those groups of power and the very shadow government leave Trump alone? That is the problem, I don’t think so!
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A few people here in the Z, a few months ago, had defended the "system" as being almost "saint" or "pure", here you have the incontrovertible truth about votes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCldQRaPXwo#t=486
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Nestor wrote:A few people here in the Z, a few months ago, had defended the "system" as being almost "saint" or "pure", here you have the incontrovertible truth about votes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCldQRaPXwo#t=486
Interesting video!
It would be nice of you to refer to those who "defended the "system" as being almost "saint" or "pure"", at least link to the post where they did that. I've been following this discussion quite closely here on Z and I don't remember anyone stating what you claim.
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So no examples how Z members "had defended the "system" as being almost "saint" or "pure""?
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Well Trump ain't no saint.
Now that reporters are gone and he stuffed Ivanka onto a Helicopter to go to White House North in Manhattan.
I can imagine Trump going over to the Obama Bust.
Grabbing it by the back of its head and pulling it into his crotch.
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VERY interesting, see this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe3pypQWl0#t=55
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Seems like college campuses have become nothing more than a place for the liberals to spread their political agenda and brainwash our children and induldge in junior-terrorism rather than educate our children. The recent U.C. Berkley College's riot only reveals the far left Liberals for what they truly are and that is anarchists/sociolists/terrorists/atheist-crusaders/anti-democracy/Elitists/Fascists/etc but they pretend to be about social-justice/equality/inclusionism/Progressive/etc. They scream bigotry, racism, sexism every chance they get but if you disagree with them then they reveal themselves to be the true bigots, fascists, and divisive, etc . The far left can't truly sell their ideology at the ballots and with elected officials so they resort to violence and try to force their beliefs on the country. Their main political accomplishments did not come from the American people voting for them but from a rogue Supreme Court with Justices who chose to legislate from the bench rather than just interpreting existing law wich is their job, then forcing this new legislation and partisan preference on the American people. Un-elected Supreme Court Justices are not suppose to legislate especially since there are no elections to hold them accountable.

The far left know they are about to loose the Supreme Court wich is their super-legislative body filled with political activists Judges. Trump's Election was devastating to them and completely unacceptable primarily because their bogus method for passing their agenda 'the Supreme Court' is about to be lost. The Supreme Court has been unconstitionally wreaking havoc on the American people and TRUMP MAY GET TO APPOINT UP TO 4 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES due to their age and desire to retire. 1 out of 5 people who voted in this election voted primarily for the Supreme court and roughly 41% of them voted for Hillary but about 53% voted for Trump. That's just the statistics for those who voted with Supreme Court picks as number 1 reason there was many who voted with this as number 2/3/etc reason as well.

All of the threats, riots, lying, cheating, stealing and obstruction the far left Liberals keep doing only shows they are the fascists, bigots, etc that they claim everyone else is who doesn't agree with them. The far left Liberals claim they are fighting for Civil Liberties and rights for all of America but the liberals are quick to shut down free-speech like they did at Berkley college wich is hypocritical. Fascism and Nazism in the World War 2 era used violence on those who held dissenting views wich is what the Liberals do. All of the celebrities making threats against the government need to be in big trouble and all of the people rioting in the streets need to have the iron fist of the law come down on them. They are the fascists and a VERY vocal minority trying to rule over the majority.

I'm not a huge fan of Donald Trump for he's said and done a lot of things I don't like but I truly believe with my heart Donald Trump was the best choice this election. We need a law-and-order president right about now and Trump best fit that bill and law-and-order-president was his campaign slogan. If ideologues and party-members can't sell their ideology to the American people the right way threw elections then resorting to junior-terrorism is not the answer, changing your platform is the real answer. Resorting to junior-terrorism only reveals their true colors and only re-assures the American people they made the right choice by NOT electing the liberal presidential candadit and many liberal congressmen/women.

PS. The Whitehouse is getting a taller wall around it now with more security mechanisms, looks like they are going to need it with all the anarchy and divisiveness that grew from the Obama administration.

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Sounddesigner wrote:Seems like college campuses have become nothing more than a place for the liberals to spread their political agenda and brainwash our children and induldge in junior-terrorism rather than educate our children. The recent U.C. Berkley College's riot only reveals the far left Liberals for what they truly are and that is anarchists/sociolists/terrorists/atheist-crusaders/anti-democracy/Elitists/Fascists/etc but they pretend to be about social-justice/equality/inclusionism/Progressive/etc. They scream bigotry, racism, sexism every chance they get but if you disagree with them then they reveal themselves to be the true bigots, fascists, and divisive, etc . The far left can't truly sell their ideology at the ballots and with elected officials so they resort to violence and try to force their beliefs on the country. Their main political accomplishments did not come from the American people voting for them but from a rogue Supreme Court with Justices who chose to legislate from the bench rather than just interpreting existing law wich is their job, then forcing this new legislation and partisan preference on the American people. Un-elected Supreme Court Justices are not suppose to legislate especially since there are no elections to hold them accountable.

The far left know they are about to loose the Supreme Court wich is their super-legislative body filled with political activists Judges. Trump's Election was devastating to them and completely unacceptable primarily because their bogus method for passing their agenda 'the Supreme Court' is about to be lost. The Supreme Court has been unconstitionally wreaking havoc on the American people and TRUMP MAY GET TO APPOINT UP TO 4 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES due to their age and desire to retire. 1 out of 5 people who voted in this election voted primarily for the Supreme court and roughly 41% of them voted for Hillary but about 53% voted for Trump. That's just the statistics for those who voted with Supreme Court picks as number 1 reason there was many who voted with this as number 2/3/etc reason as well.

All of the threats, riots, lying, cheating, stealing and obstruction the far left Liberals keep doing only shows they are the fascists, bigots, etc that they claim everyone else is who doesn't agree with them. The far left Liberals claim they are fighting for Civil Liberties and rights for all of America but the liberals are quick to shut down free-speech like they did at Berkley college wich is hypocritical. Fascism and Nazism in the World War 2 era used violence on those who held dissenting views wich is what the Liberals do. All of the celebrities making threats against the government need to be in big trouble and all of the people rioting in the streets need to have the iron fist of the law come down on them. They are the fascists and a VERY vocal minority trying to rule over the majority.

I'm not a huge fan of Donald Trump for he's said and done a lot of things I don't like but I truly believe with my heart Donald Trump was the best choice this election. We need a law-and-order president right about now and Trump best fit that bill and law-and-order-president was his campaign slogan. If ideologues and party-members can't sell their ideology to the American people the right way threw elections then resorting to junior-terrorism is not the answer, changing your platform is the real answer. Resorting to junior-terrorism only reveals their true colors and only re-assures the American people they made the right choice by NOT electing the liberal presidential candadit and many liberal congressmen/women.

PS. The Whitehouse is getting a taller wall around it now with more security mechanisms, looks like they are going to need it with all the anarchy and divisiveness that grew from the Obama administration.

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Once these girly men hit something that hits back they'll go back to
their parents basement in search of the next soft target.
No crisis.

And the immigrant "crisis" is easy to solve.
Trump married a beautiful immigrant, he knows what's up.
Any women without a child under the age of 35 gets in.
Ban the men, problem solved.

Nothing's better than an immigrant women seeking citizenship.
They'll treat you like a King.
I speak from experience.
No experience with Eastern European, North African or Middle Easterners.
But them Asian babes got it going on...

I actually have to say please, let me up, I gotta take a leak.....
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I cant figure this out. Do you Trump supporters really believe what you write or are you just fucking with us. :lol:
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