Brexit

[Nestor]

The whole Russian scam is like an old movie kind of 1984 or something! I am freaking out in amazement at the given arguments… I mean, a chapter of Batman would be more credible than this absolute crap about Russia! All these dishonest efforts are such a lack of respect to the people’s intelligence! They think all of us are little children that would believe their cheap comic magazine plots just like that…, but not all of us are children-like-people that would swallow their “FAKE NEWS”, definitely not, and every day that goes by there are hundreds of people getting out of these manipulations and their hypnosis!

There is no coming back now, both sides are far away toward their own goals, so tension is bigger and stronger than ever before, because if this rotten establishment pushes it and try to get back the elections by force and out of the law, there will be several civil wars at the same time all around the globe. People will not let them do this the easy way either. We are facing a truly dangerous moment. Is this my point of view or is it what is truly going on? Judge by yourself! The NWO is desperate to go to war with Russia. This is crazy, yes but, unfortunately, absolutely expectable! I knew they would not give up their power in any easy way. The following month is extremely important in our lives.

[Nestor]

The US has begun moving 1600 armored vehicles to a Cold War-era storage depot in the Netherlands as part of President Obama’s continued strategy to deter Russian aggression in Europe, "aggression that is not real, of course".

[pastor]

"aggression that is not real, of course".

Where is that quote from?

[pastor]

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I love the irony in this tweet

[Sounddesigner]

Looks like another huge terrorist attack has happened. This time it happened Monday in Berlin where a terrorist drove a Truck into a crowd of people at a Christmas-market killing 12 people and injuring dozens. This is only the first-generation just wait till the children of many of the refugees grow up and start attacking (Children of refugees and immigrants from radikal countries have already been commiting terror attacks and crimes here in the USA). I'm sure Merkel will have serious challenges getting re-elected since she has really harmed Germany with her accepting about a million refugees. Some of the harm is seen in the short-term some won't be seen till later generations emerge. Some may disagree with my opinions on Merkel but the voters will have the final word, isn't that what it's all about?

Once again guns were not used wich counters the Liberals arguments that we need more gun control to counter terrorism and mass-killings. Guns is not the problems bad political policies are. People will use trucks, knives, home made bombs, etc to kill if there are no guns wich they're proving cause they're using these things now.

Australlia just thwarted a major Terror attack by 7 people who were self-radicalized and inspired by ISIS. Those 7 planned to use explosive devices on Christmas day to kill a lot of people. The terrorists obviously are at war with Western Christian religion this is why they are targeting Christmas day. These attrocious attacks are now apart of our way of life and several Western free-nations will be harmed for many generations due to stupid leadership. I'm glad the Bush and Obama era's are over and about to be, they made us a stupid country and weakened us financially, militarily, etc while other opposing countries such as Russia, China, Iran and Norh Korea are getting stronger and more aggressive (When I say opposing countries I mean the hostile governments not the people/citizens who may be peacefull). If we don't turn around and wise up we get beaten and serious consequences come with failure. Hopefully Donald Trump does the right things if not than hopefully Americans give him the boot out of Washington by not re-electing him. I know change has to come from the people as well cause if we just wait on government it will never come.

[Sounddesigner]

I'm not sure there is much of a "right way" in Trump's billions. His ploy to build anything was to create two companies. One served as the owner of the building throughout construction until it was complete. Then declared bankruptcy so it didn't have to pay contractors. Then the second company swings in to buy it all cheap. Ask the unpaid workers about those contracts. Dirty business and self aggrandizement make billions. And after years of dirty dealings when your ego needs a boost, you go join the WWF.

You might be right that a lot of Trumps money was made 'the wrong way' threw ill-gotten gain and if so this would diminish my view of him some but not completely since i know a lot appears to being made the right way now and in the past from what i do see.

But i definitely can say this, many of Trump's business talents and business skills was on full-display for all the world to see all threw-out the Election process and even now (with the Carrier, Boeing, etc deals that Donald negotiated for American jobs and lower prices). Those talents and skills were self-evident and very impressive during the Election process. i'll explain below:

1. FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SKILLS: Trump spent far less money than his competitors in the Election race appearing only buying what was necessary. Jeb Bush and Hillary spent way more on advertisement, campaign staff, campaign officess, ground game, pollsters, etc but got worse results. Trumpt knew how to use Twitter and work the Media by making outragious statements and some statements that later proved to be true. He also kept media attention cause he's talented at speaking and entertainint thus increases ratings, and attracks large crowds to rallies. Trump basically generate A LOT of free advertisement for himself wich ultimately saved money. Trump was innovative in how he used Twitter and instagram videos. Trump calls in to all the Morning News Shows and made himself available to the Press with News-Conferences and interviews wich ultimately saved him money. Trump did'nt just throw a lot of money at typical campaign problems but solved those problems with skills he had and by being resourcefull wich are truly characteristics of a intelligent businessman. He spent a little money but got huge results when compared to other candidates.


2. MASTER BRANDER AND SALESMAN: Trumps speaking ability is no doubt a serious business skill for it allows him to sell himself and appreciate his brand-name wich he Licenses and uses on high-end businesses. Many other politicians could barely get 200 people to come hear them speak and Trump continuously filled arenas with 30,000 people. That speaking and branding ability sold America and i'm sure it sells his brand to other businesses who license his name. IIRC he sold his debtors with his speaking and advertisement in the 1990's with his speaking and advertisement and they did not take him all the way down because of it i think. He sold himself/persona to get free advertisement wich allowed him to sell us the idea he'd be the best candidate. Trump showed he was great at advertisement and selling the way he got free advertisement and the huge rallies and ultimately the Presidency. To quote Bill Clinton "Trump is a Master Brander":Trump sold himself as a good strong leader and top businessman and relatable to the average-person.Trump knows how to sell himself thus he knows how to keep the cameras on him for free. He sold himself/persona to get free advertisement wich allowed him to sell us the idea he'd be the best candidate. Wich is smart business marketing and dealing IMB
Trumps boisterous and braggadocious style helps his businesses and i'm sure others businesses that license his name be seen as high-end or the best place to be based on more staying at his Washington hotel . His campaign hats have been selling like crazy now. Trump is good at keeping high-value in his name wich he licenses out, many have always seen the Trump name as Royalty/High-End this is why so many companies License it.. All of the world seen first-hand his masterfull branding ability when he was telling us how great he is how wise he is etc. Trump is truly entertaining and good at selling himself wich are great business skills to have and i'm sure helps make his name bigger and adds value to it. Trump also branded other candidates negatively but in a masterfull way e.g. low-energy Jeb Bush, lying Ted Cruise, Crooked Hillary,etc. Trump was great at creating slogans such as "Make America great again" and "drain the swamp" or phrases that resonate such as 'We don't win anymore"; contrast that with Hillary's weak slogans like "stronger together".

3. HUSTLER: Trump simply put physically out-worked his opponents. He did more than 100 more rallies than Clinton, far more news-conferences, etc during the General Election. Trump fully invests and submerge himself in his work/mission and truly hustles harder than others, this was on full display. He is a hustler who does his job with a passion and a lot of stamina. He literally worked harder than his political opponents and it showed in a obvious way. Other candidates would not call in to Morning News Shows as often, or do as many Press conferences, interviews, rallies, etc. Trump even went to hostile Liberal Media Centers where he was hated to do interviews, He even went to African-Americans institutions to get votes that other Republicans have traditionally forgotten or abandoned, He went to a 'Never Trump Movement' Radio Show . After having a lot of harsh words for Mexico Trump went to Mexico to meet with the Mexican President where he looked very Presidential; Hillary refused to go to Mexico and she just did'nt hustle like Trump. I Prefer a president and business leader who truly hustles and works hard, great attributes and the hallmarks of a great businessman.


4. THINKS OUTSIDE THE BOX/INNOVATIVE: Trump used Twitter and chose big Rallies over ground-games etc. Trump thrived on controversial statements wich normally would ruin a politicians campaign and career but many people loved and supported his war on Political-Correctness thus allowed him to do what others could not. He found what works for him wich often is a bit unconventional, but still he finds what works best and it allowed him to rise in a crowded Republican primary with 17 candidates as well as the General Election. Thinking outside the box is a important and needed characteristic for a great leader and businessman.

5. HIRES THE RIGHT STAFF: Trumps hires the right campaign staff to get the job done contrast to Hillary who had a situation were Bill Clinton told her campaign staff they needed to go after working middle-class whites in the midwest and the campaign staff was not interested and basicly laughed at him. Hillary in turn did not really campaign in several midwest States and it partly costed her. Trump surprisingly went to Michigan in the final days and had adjusted his campaign speech in the final days to be more uplifting and addressing concerns while Clinton was still in mud slinging/personal-attack mode. Clinton had a bad strategy and bad advisers and bad campaign staff who became a liability due to the Wikileaks revealing their corruption. Cory Lewindowski got Trumps campaign far off the ground and KellyAnne Conway is credited as turning it around in sinking times and getting Trump over the finish line. Trumps staff had better strategy. Trump hired some good people and knew when to fire those that needed to be. This type of good judgement is a hallmark of a good businessman and leader.


CLOSING ARGUMENT:

i've no doubt that Trumps many many years as a Reality-Show-TV star gave him or improved his marketing/advertisement/Branding/Selling skills wich allowed him to work the media, cameras, and audiences the right way for success. Many businesses hire celebrities to do commercials for them, Trump was a celebrity and thus needed to hire noone and thus was a more complete businessman. Hillary needed Celebrities at her Rallies Trump did no singing or dancing or playing pianos etc and Trump did'nt need any other celebrities and still his rallies stayed packed and excited and electrified. Trump was simply a better candidate than his opponents who never figured out how to stop him after underestimating him. There was legitamit skills on display by Trump that can easily be overlooked. Overlooking Trumps skills is what his political opponents repeatedly did all threw-out the Election process and only seen a buffoon, needless to say this under-estimation and ridicule costed them all greatly.
I can't speak about all Trumps past business practices cause i dom't have enough info. He might truly be guilty of a lot of dirty deeds in the past, but i can say for sure that Trump do definitely have some business skills and he showed this threw-out the Election process. Many in the Media claimed he was not a billionaire but any average intelligence person can look at all his homes and businesses and how much he spent on his campaign and tell he is more than likely a billionaire. Some things are self-evident.

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[pastor]

I see your points, so im not giving to argue your views. Just a little bit of info; the terrorist did use a gun when he shot the driver og the truck and the policeman in italy. However, it was a .22 cal from what ive heard, maybe even homemade. If he would be able to get an AR15 he would probably be able to do more damage.

[garyb]

you do know that an AR15 is no more deadly than any other gun with using the same small round, right?

i just mention this because the AR15 is always called an "assault rifle" as though it were some incredibly extra destructive weapon when it's just another rifle. the M16 is the military version, it's fully automatic, the AR15 is just a regular semi-auto rifle. even though it's said to have no hunting value, it IS used as a hunting rifle for small to medium sized game. there's a lot of hype and propaganda these days about guns with plastic instead of wooden stocks.

it's not really a big matter, it's just a comment from the gallery....

[pastor]

Oh yeah i am aware of those points, so maybe i was unprecise. I was referring to him using a simple, maybe even homemade .22 calibre gun. If it is the actual variant i suspect, its a simple single shot device which takes long (and is quite cumbersome) to reload. If it was a "proper" .22 pistol, the lethal range would be very limited. For the improvised version we are talking a few meters. Compared to a 5.56 or 7.62 semi auto, its night and day. And yes, i am aware you can get/build .22 AR15 as well, but they are not very popular for some reason.

[pastor]

PS
I was just replying to the statement that "guns were not used". I am not trying to tie this to US gun control as I agree that in this case it is totally irrelevant for numerous reasons.

[garyb]

no, i see that.
as i said, i was just making a side-statement(not super important).

it's true, though. one can be quite murderous without a gun.

i think a razor sharp samurai sword in a very crowded place might be one of the worst weapons...

[dawman]

I'm not sure there is much of a "right way" in Trump's billions. His ploy to build anything was to create two companies. One served as the owner of the building throughout construction until it was complete. Then declared bankruptcy so it didn't have to pay contractors. Then the second company swings in to buy it all cheap. Ask the unpaid workers about those contracts. Dirty business and self aggrandizement make billions. And after years of dirty dealings when your ego needs a boost, you go join the WWF.

Sounds like typical NYTimes nonsense.
I built 2 towers for Trump, 7 years of work.
He uses Perini and the Dick Corporation, all Union Contractors.

What he does is back charge for deadlines not met, price over runs.
The Contractors then do the same until the last guys standing when the music stops playing take a cut in pay or hire a law firm and sue the deep pockets.

Everyone does this.
The small contractors that take the beating learn their lessons and usually recover their losses on the next gig.
When I read these stories the one I found true was in Florida.
But even that was Plumbers who are notorious for creating problems stuffing pipes to stay on the job longer.

In Vegas Plumbing General Foreman told Trump no way he could finish the floors punchlist by end of the day.
Trump said I'll find somebody who can.
He replied you can't fire me I'm Union....
Trump bought the Company he worked for and came back at the end of the day and gave him dos cheques....

Each day Plumbers finished thier punch list as the bid agreement had agreed to.

Look the guys a dick, but things get done under budget and ahead of schedule.
I cashed in my pension 3 years ago and 13% of the money I see every month comes from jack off billionaires like him, Adelson and Steve Wynn.

The dickheads in DC take my money every month and the world gets worse while they "right/left" same thing in my book, get rich.

Hang in there and give the guy a shot.
He don't like losing.
We've been losing for 10 years and personally I got tired of it.

I kind of started thinking Trump could win when I saw what he did to a Bernie Sanders rally in Vallejo, CA.
Bernie had a large crowd on the beach, and right as Bernie took the stage 2 x Cessna prop planes with those old Coppertone Banners started buzzing the rally, and as everyone looked up, including Bernie, they read the banners saying "Bernies History" and "Vote For Trump"...

I just then realized I was going to actually watch this election.
I usually don't vote just because I didn't like the candidates selected for us.

Just thought I'd explain why these contractor stories occur.
It's the business and everyone wants their bonus, so once that starts getting eaten up, well, shit rolls downhill after that.

[siriusbliss]

I'm not sure there is much of a "right way" in Trump's billions. His ploy to build anything was to create two companies. One served as the owner of the building throughout construction until it was complete. Then declared bankruptcy so it didn't have to pay contractors. Then the second company swings in to buy it all cheap. Ask the unpaid workers about those contracts. Dirty business and self aggrandizement make billions. And after years of dirty dealings when your ego needs a boost, you go join the WWF.

Sounds like typical NYTimes nonsense.
I built 2 towers for Trump, 7 years of work.
He uses Perini and the Dick Corporation, all Union Contractors.

What he does is back charge for deadlines not met, price over runs.
The Contractors then do the same until the last guys standing when the music stops playing take a cut in pay or hire a law firm and sue the deep pockets.

Everyone does this.
The small contractors that take the beating learn their lessons and usually recover their losses on the next gig.
When I read these stories the one I found true was in Florida.
But even that was Plumbers who are notorious for creating problems stuffing pipes to stay on the job longer.

In Vegas Plumbing General Foreman told Trump no way he could finish the floors punchlist by end of the day.
Trump said I'll find somebody who can.
He replied you can't fire me I'm Union....
Trump bought the Company he worked for and came back at the end of the day and gave him dos cheques....

Each day Plumbers finished thier punch list as the bid agreement had agreed to.

Look the guys a dick, but things get done under budget and ahead of schedule.
I cashed in my pension 3 years ago and 13% of the money I see every month comes from jack off billionaires like him, Adelson and Steve Wynn.

The dickheads in DC take my money every month and the world gets worse while they "right/left" same thing in my book, get rich.

Hang in there and give the guy a shot.
He don't like losing.
We've been losing for 10 years and personally I got tired of it.

I kind of started thinking Trump could win when I saw what he did to a Bernie Sanders rally in Vallejo, CA.
Bernie had a large crowd on the beach, and right as Bernie took the stage 2 x Cessna prop planes with those old Coppertone Banners started buzzing the rally, and as everyone looked up, including Bernie, they read the banners saying "Bernies History" and "Vote For Trump"...

I just then realized I was going to actually watch this election.
I usually don't vote just because I didn't like the candidates selected for us.

Just thought I'd explain why these contractor stories occur.
It's the business and everyone wants their bonus, so once that starts getting eaten up, well, shit rolls downhill after that.

I've tried to explain to my liberal friends how unions (don't) work.

At this point he's an empty suit until he delivers.
Better than having the wool pulled over our eyes as we have for at least the past 40 years.

He's even got the crony neo-cons groveling at his feet looking for a job.
He's turned away so-called suck-up 'loyalists'.
Going for the jugular.

We may not even see press conferences anymore. He doesn't need the antiquated liar fifth-column press.

G

[dawman]

It's definitely a brave new world.

I made 1 large on 10 bets with friends and acquaintances.
Rolled it over on the DeepMind 12 at Sweetwater.

Trump already bought me a synth and he hasn't taken the Oath yet.....

[pastor]

How do you like the DeepMind? Im kind of holding on for the rack version, if that ever comes out...

[dawman]

Me too since I've got a Physis K4.
But I needed to buy the spot at Sweetwater to qualify.
I pray Ulli B. shows the various versions @NAMM 17.
Then I'll patiently wait for the Rack.

Watch the Augmented Reality software video.
It shows how much extra control lies under the hood of the surface.

Ulli B. dreams big.

Only reason I passed on the OB 6 is the lack of a Rack.

Happy New Year..

[dawman]

This controller is the very best out there.
Great action, custom AFT Curves, 32 active zones with a dozen real time pedals/wheels.
Like having 4 x BCF 2000s.

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[Nestor]

We are now very close for Trump to take over the presidency. Amazing times this are historically speaking, unusual and unique. My eyes are wide open watching in every direction, left, right, up and down, in the search of what is going to happen… there are so many forces pushing in different directions that is confusing. It is like if the world was a bottle that is being pressed from many different angles, we need to know in which point exactly this bottle is going to break up. When this happens, those in power will show their real intentions.

As Abraham Lincoln said: "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power or take his power away".

[dawman]

Indeed.
He also said:
You cannot strengthen the weak (Commies) by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
(Unless you are a Fed and can steal money legally)

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[Nestor]

Federalization, this is really scary!

This could be actually, the stop in which the bottle could brake up!