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petal · Post by **petal** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:21 pm

theres a nice little 4 op fm freebie called fm4 out there - I can't find a link though.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:11 pm

That's a great EPiano FM Brass device.
16 voice polyphony too.

Check Ben Walkers site.

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:51 pm

I can not say how much dsp hunger the FM BUNDLE has, because I have 3x15=45 dsp in my PC, and so I Do Not care about it. But in your case with 3 dsp, i would radher buy a yamaha tx802

tlaskows · Post by **tlaskows** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:10 pm

no, I have 45 DSPs.

-Tom

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:03 pm

Better you buy the FM BUNDLE

I tried the fm4 freebee,

was really not made to replace a dx7II, I was disappointed, I though I could save 69€, but I Saved 200, because I didnt buy a tx802 or a real dx7II.

For me the FM BUNDLE was best buy ever in Scope Shop

Bud Weiser · Post by **Bud Weiser** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:20 am

anabella wrote: Better you buy the FM BUNDLE

I tried the fm4 freebee, was really not made to replace a dx7II, I was disappointed, I though I could save 69€, but I Saved 200, because I didnt buy a tx802 or a real dx7II.

For me the FM BUNDLE was best buy ever in Scope Shop

DAS FM bundle may be cool for the price, but "f07" doesn´t replace a DX7mk II (or TX802) also.
It´s a 1st generation DX7 at best.

Bud

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:53 pm

For me, the very best in the market are these two instruments for fm pianos of all kind (I even prefer them over the originals for many reasons) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOf7UaFiAVs

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbpFcWBc-9o

You are covered!

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:08 pm

These are Samples, its not the FM Generation. Not for me.

jhulk · Post by **jhulk** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:56 am

anabella you missed the point on what nestor was sayin the fm tines are samples yes but they are sampled from an sy99 fm synthesizer they are multilayers so catch all the expressive volume modulations of velocity

the sy99 also allows layers of fm patches 2afm and 4afm as mono or 2afm and 2 amw pcm voices and allows you to add your own samples

this means for e-piano sounds you can add thump pcm and release pcm yto give you the sound of hitted tines

this can be accomplished in modular with sample modules and fm modules and the dx router that roy thines did

but the gui of the uvi interface is very good and even the sy99 you have to load those sounds

gm have sampled all the best types in 1 place so you dont have to search through 1000,s of patches just to find a choice few.

im lucky in that i own the said instrument and its a lovely instrument to play and program as its an advance fm engine 16 start waveforms which on a dx7 you need 2 ops to create any one of them

it also has algo design with sounddiver3 editor you can place the ops in any configuration you like if you want feedback on all ops you can and its also has rcm this allows any pcm to act as modulator this is very expressive.

then you have the pcm engine where you can do vector synthesis like the prophet vs its one of those synths that is fresh all day every day as user pcm and fm you never run out of doing stuff with it

ronnie · Post by **ronnie** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:33 am

It does sound great. Seems quick to get to some really great sounds. On my list for the future!

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:14 pm

Okay, this is indem interessant....! But for me, I. M a purist

I dont want to have everything twice, I already have mine

tlaskows · Post by **tlaskows** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:54 pm

I don't have the space for gigabytes of samples. I have an SSD.

My Korg M3 has some good sounds if I really need them.

-Tom

tlaskows · Post by **tlaskows** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:44 pm

So,

I did buy the Das FM Bundle this morning. Haven't tried it out yet, hopefully tonight.

-Tom

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:13 pm

cool

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:06 pm

I love Olive and Eric but those FM Pianos suck.
Mix them with samples so it's not a total loss....

I love the Kontakt FS1R stuff.
Sounds great and no different than the hardware since it's digital to begin with.
Well, the Yammy does have a filter that sounds really good, might be some analog part in there b ut Scope Filters are equally as nice.

But I'm a Piano player from birth, so naturally I am quite sure of what I know that works or not.
Not everybody is as picky as me.
But those Dogs don't Hunt....

tlaskows · Post by **tlaskows** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:24 pm

Yes,

I remember my TX802 sounding a lot more "dynamic" and "responsive".

I think with proper programming this can be fixed. I used to do a lot of FM stuff on a Soundblaster OPL3 chip. But this is a lot more complex...

-Tom

tlaskows · Post by **tlaskows** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:47 pm

Haha,

OT warning:

Found a backup CD with all my high school stuff back from around 1996/1997. A lot of Scream Tracker stuff. And Cakewalk 6 projects (SB AWE32 and Yamaha XG). Gotta go to bed, but will see what I can recover...

-Tom

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:58 am

Hi Tom, how is your fm bundle? Still in use or in garbage? Mine is phantastic, but Not very much presets makes me Not satisfied. Now i bought a yamaha fb01 with all its hum and hiss but a fat fat 4 OP fm Sounds and 250 presets built inside. I have a PC Editor, but the presets are good enough. I put that in the scope soundfactory with Filter Effekts and ohters to make it Sound really great. Im happy now.
There are NO presets for the fm bundle, No Support!

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu May 12, 2016 9:40 am

For software 6-op FM try Dexed, it's really good and even has a 12-bit mode. Works as an editor for a hardware DX7/TX7 too.

Roy's DxCwm is great too for wavetables vs FM.

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Wed May 18, 2016 5:32 pm

Hey guys, I tried all the shit, but nothing is better than the original. I got a TX802 with its original Sound. NO need to use any pissed simulation. the FM bundle sounds good, but no converter and just a view sounds, so this could be good, but for me it succs. An original dx7II isnt a Minimoog, it is not so expensive but also an original machine.

so have a nice day.

BTW I connected the tx802 to scope an then: FLEISCHWOLF gedreht!....einmal kurbel kurbel and we have fresh meat!

hmmm smells really good! Modular helps a lot

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