How to connect Scope 3 DSP with Mac Pro 2012? Please help!

[Sun State]

Hello to all!

I'd like to connect my Scope 3 DSP with Mac Pro 2012,
but Scope has PCI 1.0, but Mac has 3 PCI express X16 slots.

1. Do i need an adapter PCI-E 2 PCI like http://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/ ... d~PEX1PCI1 for this?

2. Second question is the next. I found out a very poor bad quality any in-the-box software DAW summing and i'd like to sum my DAW (Cubase tracks
directly in the Scope mixer. Can i sum 60 stereo tracks directly in the STM 2448 scope mixer (maybe i need 2 or even 3 stm 2448 mixers in the scope patch window)?

Thanks for an advance!

[hubird]

There's no Scope OSX version...
I run three cards an an perfect old G4 mac pro, connected to my 2009 OSX mac running Cubase through a RME ADAT PCIe interface.
This is what the spare mac Scope users do.
Again, there's only a OS9 version for mac.
My OS9 mac is my 'external Xite'.

Adapters are said not to work properly, like the Magma boxes.
A simple PCI(e) adapter won't work at all, if I'm right.

You won't be able to run more than one 24/48 mixer on a 3 dsp card I'm afraid...
The # of connections count also.
Good luck

[Sun State]

It's a very pity. Then hubird can you offer any another solution to sum signals by hardware? I have Rme FF 800 card and it has maximum 16 internal stereo io for 48 kHz, but to sum 60 tracks i need much more io than ff 800 has. Maybe UAD or rme madi based cards?

[hubird]

I'm the type of guy that thinks that my mixing actions count 1000 times stronger to a mix than summing losses...

60 tracks in stereo, that's a lot.
I don't have other experiences that with my rme 24 channel adat card.
You would need made indeed, or copperlan (there's a track going on on copperlan).
RME isn't cheap, but you also need more dsp's.

[Sun State]

You would need made indeed, or copperlan (there's a track going on on copperlan).
RME isn't cheap, but you also need more dsp's.

I did not understand how Copperlan helps me to sum a lot of stereo tracks if i my Scope 3 dsp has no connection with my 2 computers
since they have only PCI-E slots? Does Xite-1 also have no OSX 10 (and above) drivers?

[fra77x2]

Copperlan is unrelated.

As the Scope ASIO driver offers 64 mono channels = 32 stereo,
the 48-96 sts mixer which offers 48 stereo channels can be used to mix all these.

If you are talking about 60 stereo channels you can't interface them outside the asio app i.e. in scope for an example.

If you are seeking for a pro app to sum your tracks Wavelab is one choice.

[hubird]

Does Xite-1 also have no OSX 10 (and above) drivers?

indeed

[Sun State]

If you are seeking for a pro app to sum your tracks Wavelab is one choice.

Wavelab? For what? Wavelab is the same as Cubase which now i have. These are all software digital summing, but i'm looking for dsp summing or analog.
What do you thik about RME Multiface 2? It has 720 mono channels in its mixer.

[fra77x2]

Go analog, digital is all the same.

[quote]It has 720 mono channels in its mixer.[/quote

[krass]

There should be no difference in summing between Cubase or a DSP mixer, or any other digital mixer.

That doesn't mean that there couldn't be any differences by the way, but not "night and day". If your summing is sounding that bad in Cubase, I would start with dropping the levels on all channels feeding the mix-bus. Let the mix peak at max -3 dB, but -6 dB, or even -9 dB will be perfectly fine as long as you're working in 24 bit!

Anyway, this (mega) thread on GearSlutz is a very good reference, and has changed how I work in DAWs significantly - even though I do mix mostly out of the box.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much ... tored.html

Regards,

KrasS