http://www.buzzmachines.com/
A french guy pm me on soundcloud to ask me how and with what I make my music and told me he works with that free soft. It's a completly free modular system. A bit like Scope without hardware and apparently there is also the sequencer into it (or daw).
It looks also like Bidule.
I never saw anything about that, even here...
The fact that it's free pleases me !
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kensuguro
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ya, Jeskola buzz's been around for several centuries. I haven't checked in like 10 years though, so I just downloaded it!
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Sadly, I don't have time for trying it.
So if you have time to tell us (as you downloaded it !) if it's good or not ....
Merci !
So if you have time to tell us (as you downloaded it !) if it's good or not ....
Merci !
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I downloaded a the stealth package which comes with a smaller collection of devices. I think Buzz suffers from the community based dev approach where things just don't really work as smoothly. Installation was confusing.. it's actually several installers in one, and I might have messed one of them up.
After install, I booted up buzz, set up ASIO and midi, and loaded some devices. I tried connecting the MIDI in module and got some sort of error. I tried importing a demo song, and got a bunch of "machine missing" errors.. so you kind of get the idea.. I seem to remember things working slightly better back when I initially checked it out. After a brief 30 min of messing around, I couldn't get any sound out of it. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but quite obviously, this thing isn't intuitive.
But basically, buzz is modular in that you can route synths and effects as you wish. Like you say, the concept is very much like Plogue. And as far as I can see from the videos, the sequencing portion is a tracker interface, so it's tough to adapt to if trackers isn't your thing. All in all, if routing devices and effects is what it offers, I'm not sure why you'd need that particular interface (routing view) to do any of that, when most modern DAW can do routing just fine, though usually done in the mixer view.
In the end, it's yet another virtual instrument platform. I think people code devices in C++. There's a bunch of synths and effects, and I believe they're all free. From the user created music, it's still quite actively being used, to varying degrees of success. As far as I can tell, what gets produced is just about the same as any other DAW or music production tool. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. I mean, I guess it's good because Buzz is free, and most others aren't. (so you can do the same stuff for free, if you try hard enough) And to a degree, it means Buzz isn't shaping the production process. But personally, as a technological musician, I'd expect a bit of affordance from the DAW that makes me think in different ways or have to come up with creative solutions whether it roots from the DAW's inability or idiosyncracies. Well, at the moment though, Buzz's inability to produce any sound for me is definitely shaping how I work with it...
I did notice a lot of rather classic sounding house tracks (kind of rare in 2015), which may indicate that the user community is confined geologically.
After install, I booted up buzz, set up ASIO and midi, and loaded some devices. I tried connecting the MIDI in module and got some sort of error. I tried importing a demo song, and got a bunch of "machine missing" errors.. so you kind of get the idea.. I seem to remember things working slightly better back when I initially checked it out. After a brief 30 min of messing around, I couldn't get any sound out of it. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but quite obviously, this thing isn't intuitive.
But basically, buzz is modular in that you can route synths and effects as you wish. Like you say, the concept is very much like Plogue. And as far as I can see from the videos, the sequencing portion is a tracker interface, so it's tough to adapt to if trackers isn't your thing. All in all, if routing devices and effects is what it offers, I'm not sure why you'd need that particular interface (routing view) to do any of that, when most modern DAW can do routing just fine, though usually done in the mixer view.
In the end, it's yet another virtual instrument platform. I think people code devices in C++. There's a bunch of synths and effects, and I believe they're all free. From the user created music, it's still quite actively being used, to varying degrees of success. As far as I can tell, what gets produced is just about the same as any other DAW or music production tool. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. I mean, I guess it's good because Buzz is free, and most others aren't. (so you can do the same stuff for free, if you try hard enough) And to a degree, it means Buzz isn't shaping the production process. But personally, as a technological musician, I'd expect a bit of affordance from the DAW that makes me think in different ways or have to come up with creative solutions whether it roots from the DAW's inability or idiosyncracies. Well, at the moment though, Buzz's inability to produce any sound for me is definitely shaping how I work with it...
I did notice a lot of rather classic sounding house tracks (kind of rare in 2015), which may indicate that the user community is confined geologically.
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I used it in the 1990s. It's been around for ages. But his hard drive crashed and he lost all the source code so a lot of stuff was lost...
Made many tracks with it back in uni days. There were actually some really good machines for it.
This is what it could do around y2k. http://www.thomaslaskowski.com/wp-conte ... f2fwav.mp3
Completely done in buzz. Sorry, not mixed/mastered properly. I am still learning.
-Tom
Made many tracks with it back in uni days. There were actually some really good machines for it.
This is what it could do around y2k. http://www.thomaslaskowski.com/wp-conte ... f2fwav.mp3
Completely done in buzz. Sorry, not mixed/mastered properly. I am still learning.
-Tom
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Well ! 
Thanks you very much for all those info ! This what I was afraid of : a big mess to install and use. As with Scope, I already can route any device, I/O and DAW as I wish and it's working very well...
I can understand you gave up after 30 mn without any sound !
All the tracks I listened made with Buzz were techno - house , very "sequenceryzed" music, and same with tlaskows ; it seems very electro stuff. Midi editing must be very complicated and my way of making music is mainly by editing midi tracks. So, I'm not going to try it...
Merci beaucoup, Kensuguro !
Thanks you very much for all those info ! This what I was afraid of : a big mess to install and use. As with Scope, I already can route any device, I/O and DAW as I wish and it's working very well...
I can understand you gave up after 30 mn without any sound !
All the tracks I listened made with Buzz were techno - house , very "sequenceryzed" music, and same with tlaskows ; it seems very electro stuff. Midi editing must be very complicated and my way of making music is mainly by editing midi tracks. So, I'm not going to try it...
Merci beaucoup, Kensuguro !
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There's is no MIDI. It's a tracker
-Tom
-Tom