austerity and community collapse

[garyb]

cowards....

[darkrezin]

I don't know what the OP was about because of the edits (wtf) but anyway leaving aside who may or may not be in charge of things - austerity is a trap and a scam. They didn't accept it in Iceland and they seem to be doing fine. Unfortunately people are too busy working/surviving to put up a fight about it. And so it continues.

[garyb]

it couldn't be said any better.

[hubird]

I don't know what the OP was about because of the edits (wtf) but anyway leaving aside who may or may not be in charge of things -

I feel quite shure it came from fra77x himself

[hubird]

- austerity is a trap and a scam.

That sounds too substicious to me, but I would agree if you mean austerity economicly is the wrong thing to do for a state.
That's what Picketty and actually many other economists say (you could have missed the conversation before).

They didn't accept it in Iceland and they seem to be doing fine. Unfortunately people are too busy working/surviving to put up a fight about it. And so it continues.

True.
In Holland the role of the labour organisations has dramaticly changed.
No more demonstrations anymore of +100.000 people in The Hague for national questions...
On the other hand we have the internet today, so information and organisation is easier than before - but then also for that bunch of idiots of I S and the like.

[dawman]

Do Labor Organizations that hold protest require protestors show their affiliation i.e. A union card, ?
Our Labor Unions and even elections are so dreadfully pathetic they are paying homeless people, and illegals to protest and vote in their stead.
No Union guy wants to throw out a days work to protest, so such unable bodied folks are necessary.
The Unions won't even give them union scale for their 8 hour day of marching either.
Well, they need the exercise any way.

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[dante]

No community collapse in BrisVegas G20 as Obama kicks Abbotts ass

http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/o ... ate-abbott

[dawman]

Last time Obama spoke about Australia he admired their Carbon Tax and had thousands of Scientists who said Earths Temperatures were now stable form the higher tax revenues.

[dante]

Yes but that was before the Liberals repealed the Tax. Abbott always said though that he would reconsider if the big polluting countries jumped on board.

Let's see what he does now. In any case his persona had nothing on Obamas at opening G20 address. I am a bit of a patriot and hope other Aussies remember Eisenhower in the Pacific, I am going to collect more Pearl memorabilia when we visit Hawaii next year and see if my fake US accent can still fool the locals. As long as Hawaii stays nice and tropical and the Johhny Rocket burgers still taste as good then hopefully no need to pay climate tax

[darkrezin]

I don't know what the OP was about because of the edits (wtf) but anyway leaving aside who may or may not be in charge of things -

I feel quite shure it came from fra77x himself

Sorry by 'who in charge' I meant governments, banks and debates about these.... the debates that don't go anywhere. I'm sure fra77x edited his own posts, I just question what the hell is the point of contributing to a thread and then deleting everything you wrote. I'd love to go back in time and delete all the stupid shit I've ever said, but what's the point, it's been said already.

[dawman]

I believe you meant Chester Nimitz.
Eisenhower was too busy pleading with the NYTimes not to print what Patton said.

I still got my Dads Flight Jacket. He drove an F4F.
Back then men had penises.
Women built Aircraft Carriers and Planes, got by fine without Welfare and Camp Counselers.

We still have many strong men and women who serve, but so many warm and fuzzy phucks that cry over the name of a Football Team.
Before people speak they have to think of a sentence to better describe a certain job skill or somebodys' feelings get hurt.
The guy who bags my food at the grocery store (whenever I don't beat them to it) is called a fuckin' BAGGER.
Not in the new era of warm and fuzziness.
This person now must be called an Agricultural Product Organizer lest their feelings are hurt.....

[garyb]

banking owners are not a secret and it's not a debate. the other stuff is opinions and open to interpretation.

[dante]

I still got my Dads Flight Jacket. He drove an F4F.

Wildcats superceeded by the Hellcat, lulling zero pilots into a false sense of security, a turning point in balance of power in Pacific. Did he fly in the pacific ?

Patton was great - at least he held the front in Europe whilst Montgomery scewed up with operation market garden.

[dawman]

Hell Cats and Mustangs were the finishing blow to the Axis Powers.
But for historys' sake if you want to read how slow F4Fs were able to use tactics against a superior force with superior weaponry, check out the Thatch Weave.

Has the community collapsed yet, or was it saved by Kings and Queens...?
We no longer have 550 Kings and Queens in DC, they have all been elevated to Gods.

[dante]

I've seen the Thatch Weave and all the other tactics on the History channel computer animations. Leading aircraft manouvres such that tailing enemy is bought into the line of fire of tailing friend.

[dawman]

We must be getting old remembering such great eras of yore.
Just saw that the Karate kid was 53.....
Now I know I am aging.
Great picture of him in drag as he tries to avoid the Paparazzi.....

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[dante]

If you've ever seen any of the 'DogFights' TV series check out the best one IMHO is 'Legend of Y-29' (series 2 episode 16).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unternehmen_Bodenplatte

Others highly recommended from the same series :

Season One Ep 6 - The Zero Killer
Season One Ep 9 - Hunt for the Bismarck
Season One Ep 10 - Long Odds

Season Two Ep 4 - Thunderbolt
Season Two Ep 11 - P-51 Mustang

Ref : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfights_(TV_series)

Loads of great GCI in these...

The Bismarck one is awesome - man that tub took a smacking before it sank...

[dawman]

I wish I had time.
I learned all of this in Military School and from my Grandfather and Father.

I was kicked out of Union/Public schools and the choice was easy, Booneville Boys Camp or Alton.
So I went there to steal microphones and PA gear since Booneville had nothing that interested me.

But I shall keep an eye open for the scheduling on HC1 & 2.
I was enjoying new cable options a couple of years ago, but I got tired really quick of all of the endless Hitler shows.
Hitlers mistress, hitlers artwork, hitlers childhood, hitlers doctors, etc.etc.
Enough of that nonsense.

Did chu know ze fuhrer vas a tellific dahnca...?

Franz Liebkin from the Mel Brooks original Producers movie....

[dante]

If you saw Robert Carlyle in The Rise Of Evil (2003) then that covers the dude to a tee. After that, hitlers dog, hitlers mum etc are all superfluous. As a movie it's even better than the documentaries and way better than The Valkyrie as well. Robert Carlyle did a brilliant job, portrayed the character with substance beyond the usual worn out cliche mannerisms.