Going Off Of Antidepressants

[quantum]

I live in Maine and on average 1 person, ages 15-35, kills themselves every 2 days due to depression or other mental health problems. One of these people was a really close friend. Years back when it happened I had to take SSRIs for a month but stopped due to nausea. So I would recommend antidepressants only in extreme cases, and only for a short time, up to 6 months because some take a while to kick in. Been on sativa for years, but had to stop to get a job.

As for Maine, there's literally nothing here but cars, trees, buildings, and old people. There's a section in Portland called Old Port with some bars and clubs that feature terrible sounding loudness-fatigue-inducing screech bands and the usual crappy top 40 DJs. The sad thing is people don't even notice or care, and it's even more depressing seeing and knowing this. I'm an EDM guy so it's 10 times as bad and everywhere I've been going for the past 6 years I get that out of place feeling. Regardless of type, the music here is so bad that people drink like crazy and the dumb ones stand right in front of speakers.

For everyone under 35 living here, it's all about who you know, greed, ignorance, and talking to people is like talking to a blank wall. If America had an anus, Maine would be it. Even Forbes rated Maine as the worst state for business. The summer is only 2 months long so all the lakes and oceans are constantly cold. I had to learn how to ski just to have fun in the winter, but it's been so cold the past two years I haven't even done that. If you ever want to see what it's like being in the movie Dark City, just come to Maine from October to April. And if anyone wants to come, drinks are on me.

[garyb]

yes, cancer is advancing nicely, just like eugenicists and depopulationists like Bertrand Russell wrote about nearly 100 years ago.
it's nice how a rare disease has become common enough for miles of cancer treatment centers here.

[Eanna]

Cancer was never a rare disease. Most of the time, it was misdiagnosed, because it wasn't fully understood.
That's if an infection, TB, smallpox, malnutrition, heart disease, meningitis, epileptic heart attacks, or whatever else didn't kill you first - stuff for which (the evil?) medicines now provide a solution.

Cancer may be becoming more common, but that's because of a combination of multiple factors. It's not being seeded, planted, cultivated.

Nestor, you are too quick to believe what you want to believe! You can seek out any point of view, and filter out what you want to hear or read. There simply is no overarching conspiracy!
(And I expect you to tell me that I know nothing, that I don't have my eyes open, that my mind is closed to the reality of the world. So, don't feel the need to type that at me - I'm saving you the bother here).

And as for costs of medicines to individuals, and the general practice of medicine in the US, gotta say that, to my European eye, it's plain weird... Advertising prescription medicines on TV? Doctors selling personal information to advertising companies? Strange stuff..

[Nestor]

Quantum, I’m sorry you have to go through this. I wish you could move to some better place you like or feel more comfortable with.

[Nestor]

Enna, don’t get to so many conclusions without some help!

Medicines are not evil, no one said it so far, neither did I. There are excellent medicines, treatments and doctors out there, but some of them are a “dirty business” and have not been created for good, they don’t pretend to cure anyone, but causing damage, and then they have prepared a “solution”, which is a medicine that will cure the damage the first one caused on you. FACTS ARE FACTS, they are not believes.

The world of antidepressants is one of the most controversial businesses of all times it is full of crimes and lies.

Unfortunately, cancer has become a big business… I have many good friends, parents and my own mother who died from this illness, so I am not far and cold about what I say, but there are also false interests behind it.

You say I am fast to believe what I believe, well…, could you please tell me what is it that I believe? Because I did not express any believes in this forum or in any other about medicines so far… You have to be aware that when someone says something, he perhaps may have reasons to say so, so you should first find out which are these reasons and then come to final conclusions, you even give me an answer in advanced time, for what I did not yet said. Is that fair?

There is no conspiracy in the health industry? I know a few doctors that are very closed to me, and these doctors themselves have told me terrible things about what is going on in hospitals for instance, with laboratories, how they work, about the “effectiveness” of medicines, about the FDA, etc., and if you are close enough to people who are into this, they will tell you things that will let you without blood in your veins, you will look white in front of a mirror, so shocking these things are…

I don’t know what you know, if you have your eyes open or closed it is up to you, I will not judge you so easily by a few yellow lines…

[quantum]

Quantum, I’m sorry you have to go through this. I wish you could move to some better place you like or feel more comfortable with.

Thanks Nestor. It was cool until I graduated college. I would have moved to Florida right after high school. I wish I knew better then.

And speaking of cancer, I'm very sorry about you mother. I survived childhood leukemia in the late 90s, so I kinda know what it's like. There is definitely a business behind medicines, all of them. Doctors don't have a clue how we get these diseases, yet there are all these cures available since the early 90s. It's also a choice. Do you want to question the research establishment and not get treated and slowly die or don't ask questions, get treated, go bankrupt, and be depressed possibly for the rest of your life?

And it could all be because of Chernobyl, depleted uranium, chemical trails, nuke tests, GMO foods, burning all kinds of shit, and toxic chemicals found in everyday materials like power and USB cables.

In reality we don't have a right to live and be healthy. We just do as we are told by media and hope for the best. It's kind of like being a sheep.

[Nestor]

I survived childhood leukemia in the late 90s, so I kinda know what it's like.

I’m glad you survived brother. What a hard experience you have gone through. I imagine, nevertheless, that transforming all these experiences into understanding, you have become a strong person today.

Sometimes changing country altogether is a great new start and gives you lots and lots of strength facing life. It is even cool to learn a new language and mix with people you have never dreamed to get to know, all these new impressions gives you some really cool new energy and reasons to keep going in this world.

[quantum]

I survived childhood leukemia in the late 90s, so I kinda know what it's like.

I’m glad you survived brother. What a hard experience you have gone through. I imagine, nevertheless, that transforming all these experiences into understanding, you have become a strong person today.

Sometimes changing country altogether is a great new start and gives you lots and lots of strength facing life. It is even cool to learn a new language and mix with people you have never dreamed to get to know, all these new impressions gives you some really cool new energy and reasons to keep going in this world.

Thanks, I try to stay positive about life and people in general. I came from Bosnia to Maine right after the war, so this is the new country. Now just gotta learn to be grateful for what I have and use music as my antidepressant.

[garyb]

life is definitely not easy.

a human being on the earth doesn't need to rely on anyone for anything. in the city, it's a little different. even if a man doesn't need to rely on anything because he's truly self sufficient, it's probably better to rely on others and have others rely on you. either way, nothing is promised, that's for sure.

by the way Eanna, read what Mr. Salk says about cancer and vaccines. Mr. Sabin agrees with him. both freely admitted(mostly pointing fingers at each other), that they had, somewhat inadvertantly, seeded cancer in the polio vaccines. every lab in the world is contaminated with a few rogue cancer strains, the most famous being HeLa cells. optimistic estimates are that HeLa cells, the immortal cell line cultured from Henrietta Lacks' cancer that was used as a test culture by many including Dr. Salk, infect 10-20% of every culture. i've heard much worse estimates as well. this is just one cancer vector. we won't get into known modern carcinogens or equally well known and vetted eugenics writings by important(read influential) people like Mr. Russell. we're enjoying this right?

i really don't think that there are that many bad-minded people doing evil, though. i have to acknowledge that there are some. good sense also requires that i acknowledge that a lot of especially good people are doing some really terrible things because the information that they are acting upon is not entirely accurate. this doesn't mean that i need to throw my hands in the air or curl into a ball, but it makes more sense to be suspicious first.

in the USA, we arfe promised that we are innocent until PROVEN guilty. recent laws make it so that one must prove one's INNOCENCE. this is all to protect me. in that case, i think that i am better protected by the leaders having to prove THEIR innocene first. i know who i am.

i do think it's a good idea to avoid drug abuse.

[Nestor]

I’m glad to see you speaking or writing this way brother Quantum Music is so, so beautiful and so open wide, you can feel like walking through an enormous landscape of beauty inside yourself, without moving to anywhere.

Your country went through a tremendous turmoil too. I have friends from Bosnia I don’t see any more, I learned English with them and it was fun, we were people from all kind of nations and mixing all these accents and understandings was really enriching. We had Russians, Hindus, Rumanian, Chinese, Bolivian, and who knows what else in this great course.

You have a very good level of English too.

[garyb]

^^^
Nestor's speaking to quantum, i assume.

[Nestor]

^^^
Nestor's speaking to quantum, i assume.

Yes I corrected it, thanks Gary

[Eanna]

Nestor I apologise, I ought not put words in your mouth. That is unfair.

I am gonna keep my nose out of these conspiracy threads.. Its not for me.

Quantum, hope you find your place, if that's travelling, music, writing..

[Nestor]

Nestor I apologise, I ought not put words in your mouth. That is unfair.

I am gonna keep my nose out of these conspiracy threads.. Its not for me.

Quantum, hope you find your place, if that's travelling, music, writing..

Don’t worry man! Stay here, you are a sharp thinker and a good fellow, you can contribute good things, as always. We are intercommunicating, and this is part of the thing. I had to tell you this for your own good too, so we all keep in touch in a constructive way.

This is not a thread about conspiracy, I think…, it is rather about what people know about these drugs and what they think.

[Nestor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWbMz_aBlMU

[hubird]

I don't hope your signature points to this shitty clip...