Going Off Of Antidepressants

[Nestor]

What do you think...

http://www.prozactruth.com/


http://brmecham.com/antidepressants/main.html

[hubird]

I would only trust my GP (family doctor) or independent self help groups...
At least I would check any claims of any website with my GP
My sister can't stop her antidepressiva unless backfall, tho she really tried to stop a few tiimes.
She functions well with the medicins.

[fra77x]

You can ask your doctor about depression and computer usage. Perhaps some mild physical exercise can help. Neck and spine strain causes a lot of pain and muscle spasms and people regard it as depression.

[Nestor]

All I can say is that I would not take that scam in a million years!

[hubird]

If your body for some reason doesn't produce enough natural hormones to feel normal you wouldn't be so sure...
After years of high stress (like someone with extreme mysophobia or panic attacks) this can happen.

I saw a documentary on tv yesterday telling the story of a woman/mother who jumped from a flat, after a lot of other tries to leave life. Her daughter, journalist and filmer, made the documentary. Her mother wanted dead, but a request for euthanesia wasn't recognized.

If you permanently cover all and everything with plastic folie because you suffer from mysophobia then you can't have a life anymore.

My sister has accepted her lifetime medication, she has her life back, she says.

[fra77x]

Feeling "good" most of the time is the natural feeling of not feeling "ill" or in pain. There is a pain threshold that just feels like discomfort.

Anyway check your habits. Sitting life, smoking and lack of energy, poor physical condition, anxiety can cause several problems. Musicians struggle with these matters as their profession requires a lot of non healthy practices. Of course it can be something else totally different.

[garyb]

it's normal to be depressed in this world. there is no rational reasson to expect to feel good. managing exp[ectations is part of maturing as a human.

DO NOT stop cold turkey, if you have been taking them for more than a week or two. you need to ease off of them. expect to feel crappy. get over it and soon you'll be a normal human again, not a drug addict.

antidepressants are a vile scourge upon mankind. not only that, the cheif ingredient, flouride, is extremely toxic. EVERY SINGLE mass murderer in the USA since these pills have been available has been a long time user of these types of psych meds. that's one of the long term side effects of using a drug that dfistorts reality so powerfully. one out of every few thousand becomes a complete psychopath. sometimes withdrawal from these meds triggers the psychotic events. flouride was first confirmed as a calming agent during ww2 nazi concentration camps. the Russians later confirmed it's effectiveness in their own gulags. it's really interesting how a substance that is meant for extreme grief and anxiety and only meant for a few days use(read the manufacturerer's warnings) is prescribed like candy.

it's certainly a good thing to feel great, but it's neither a right, nor something that's promised by your maker. stop abusing drugs. if you must have you mood elevated, pick something less damaging. smoke sativa. go hiking and enjoy your own endorphins. lift weights. do something useful for others.

just my opinion...

[fra77x]

it's normal to be depressed in this world

I believe it's a better world than anything in the past. The past must have been horrible... No electricity. Crazy times...

[hubird]

in ancient times the chance to die from brutal violence was 1 to 4...

[fra77x]

And 3/4 chances to die from moderate violence


Of course all that happened in a less poluted, less crowded, less everything world, and most importantly without traffic

[garyb]

good, then you don't need drugs.

[Immanuel]

This guy is NOT a mister nobody. Look up Cochrane reviews are not childs play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1LQiow_ ... ture=share

[Nestor]

The problem is that there are right now, many billions of dollars of “progress” spread into these kind of drugs, which are among the most negative thing ever created. Modifying the way your own brain works? Nothing could be farther away from NATURE than that.

People behind these kinds of creations are murderers with nice clothes and shining cars… but murderers after all.
Read about the truth behind it; find out what is really happening to those who have been taking this kind of disgrace pills for too long and be surprised at the damage they can cause to you.

I hope nobody goes into the easy path, which is by the end the most difficult imaginable. It is better to grow up as an individual, face life, learn and then be strong by nature, by design, but chemicals introduced to intercept your serotonin? Common! This is madness!

The bussines behind this pills is so dirty that it makes me to want to vomit…

[garyb]

obviously, there are situations where these drugs are helpful and even lifesaving. they aren't a good long term solution to anything, though. most psych meds are poorly prescribed and monitored, as well as abused by doctors. i get this opinion from watching a family member struggle with schizophrenia and watching his ridiculous medication adventures.

[hubird]

...I hope nobody goes into the easy path, which is by the end the most difficult imaginable. It is better to grow up as an individual, face life, learn and then be strong by nature, by design, but chemicals introduced to intercept your serotonin? Common! This is madness!
The bussines behind this pills is so dirty that it makes me to want to vomit…

Some processes are biologically defined, Nestor, even when instigated by socio-psychological processes from the past.
Ask my sister of above.
Sometimes there's a good reason for medicins, like Garyb points out.
Medicins can make the difference between (self chosen) death or life.

Controll of medicin abuse also depends on the country you're talking about.
Be specific, be intelligent.
Here the use of psychiatric medicins, its effectivity, its controll mechanisms and the role of insurency companies in relationship with legislation are a regular topic in our 4 'independant' news and talking shows, and often lead to questions in parliament.

Don't know how's that on Cloud Nine

[garyb]

control of abuse is non-existant, unless you are talking about self medication. giving someone antidepressants for more than a few days is known to be a bad thing, even the drug's own literature stresses this, yet more and more people are depending on such drugs to live. this is certainly abuse, just like a heroin junkie.

the medical profession and the drug manufacturers have no desire to help anyone, regardless of what any individual doctor or nurse might desire. medical shools, hospitals, government officials and drug makers are no your freinds, even though they're the best place to turn to for help in many situations.

trusting your doctor is like asking to be damaged. it really is up to each person to be responsible for his/her own health. the fact is, that doctors often really don't know the hole in their ass any better than they know a hole in the ground. it's extremely dangerous to always accept the opinions of experts, since experts only know what they've been told, just like everyone else. a doctor is a source of information for sure, and the best place for certain information, but there are certainly ignorant, misinformed, criminal, lying, egotistical and fraudulent doctors aplenty, even with laws that forbid such things. just look at a cross section of humans in any profession and you'll find some honest hard workers, some fruads, some cheats, and some lazy people(that's me!). it doesn't matter which profession. sure, child molesters tend to become children's social workers, and liars tend to become politicians and lawyers, but good people choose those jobs, too. medicine is no different. any sane person would keep a suspicious eye on even the seemingly most humanitarian of any service, just based on that knowledge of the diversity of human behavior.

also, while i would always try to save a person's life if possible, i'm not so naive to think that saving a malfunctioning human is always the best choice. it's a very self-centered and sociopathic action to kill one's self, but then there are times that that kind of action is called for.

[Nestor]

There is a fight against everything natural. This fight comes from these big laboratories to sweep from the earth anything that is not their drugs and medicaments.

I think it is VERY important to remember and know that there are hundreds of alternatives that work very well, before getting into any kind of strong drugs or antibiotics. These alternatives are not known to most people as they tend to be natural methods, and as I said, these methods have been mocked about so people don’t longer pay attention to them.

Cancer itself, this terrible illness, has many alternative healing possibilities, but most people would go through chemotherapy, which is so aggressive AND SO EXPENSIVE…

I have investigated this by myself and to my own surprise, many big name companies in the health industry are the ones that create the problem, and then offer the solution through a different company and product, but the owners are the same people.

I cannot complain against ignorance, or condemn a doctor because he does not know enough, but I would definitely condemn those who “know” very well, that they are making money out of none-healing medicines and treatments, and don't care a thing about people's pain.

The health industry is as disgusting as the petrol one is.

[fra77x]

You are getting to your conclusions very fast. My father uses antidepressants because he had a heart attack before years.

They are helping people. Its a common procedure. Anxiety increase the risk of heart attack. Antidepressants control some amounts of anxiety. It works.

All that stuff, that the petrol industry and the health industry, is an easy demonizing of things without any serious thought. Petrol industry keeps us warm and moving. Health industry tries to keep us well being. There is some corruption but it is normal.

[hubird]

actually cancer research has emerged great progress in the last two decades.
The knowledge of disturbed functioning of relevant proteins and genes (cancer) has largely improved, thanks to the Human Genome Project HPG.
Cancer in the next future will be an illness like HIV is now: treatable.
Just google on new devellopments cancer reseach and you'll find everything

[Nestor]

You are getting to your conclusions very fast. My father uses antidepressants because he had a heart attack before years.

They are helping people. Its a common procedure. Anxiety increase the risk of heart attack. Antidepressants control some amounts of anxiety. It works.

All that stuff, that the petrol industry and the health industry, is an easy demonizing of things without any serious thought. Petrol industry keeps us warm and moving. Health industry tries to keep us well being. There is some corruption but it is normal.

Wow... You really don't know what you are talking about! Get into it and be a detective yourself, then get to the conclusions of what is really going on. But don’t believe, experience! My conclusions do not come from anything "fast", but rather a very "slow" path as they have taken my whole life and are based in real information and personal experience, not believes... The petrol as well as the health industry are also – so to say – "microphonicy things", hope you can discover the difference, too, as you did with guitars...