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Help with studio sound

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Hi
I am treating my studio to improve its sound see photos. I picked up a load of matrial from a studio that was going out of business 10 703 rigid fiberglass panels a load of auralex foam panels,bass traps and 6 T'Fuser diffusers http://www.auralex.com/sound_diffusor_t ... tfusor.asp I also bought Roxul mineral wool and have built two super chunk bass traps for the front of the studio
My questions is should I use the T'Fuser in the celling gaps between the wood beams this seems like it could be a problem area? Or use them on the back wall. I plan to fill them filled with left over mineral not to sure we're should I place the diffusers?
The room is 9ft by 24ft insulated drywall walls exsposed 8ft wood celling and wood floor
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diffusers belong at your side, to your back, and if more are left over, in front. above you might be nice, but it's last. you can make them too....

if you can, your mix position should be near the middle of the room.
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a few tips:

mix position: at around 38% from the front and centered for the width of the room
speakers: shouldn't be in the middle (floor to ceiling)
first (early) reflexions: get a mate to hold a mirror at the walls/ceiling while you're sitting on the mixing position. the position of the mirror on which you can see the speakers are the early or first reflexion points. These should be treated first... so yes, the ceiling should be treated in my opinion... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9u7k2V4YPw)

this is a great resource for the topic, you'll find floorplans and all kind of different accoustic treatment stuff:
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php

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Nice to see a musician that knows what a Sawzall is for, and a screw gun to boot.
I don't think any of the guys I work with ever ecen held a Hammer before.
Putos..

Looks Nice. Seems well isolated too.
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I can rock a sawzall like no other! .. wish I was as good on the keys!
I am having fun remodeling and I finally will have scope as the center piece of the studio. I will need to figure out a headphone output with the xite 1d maybe a headphone DAC.
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The roof is never as important as your back, spend much of your material for your back wall to have clear bass response and this will give you lots of space to receive the rest of the frequencies with more separation.
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Nestor
just figured this out ! I was at the back of the studio and there is a lot of bass back there! was going to skimp on the back of the studio and use foam bass traps but will now build two superchunk traps like the front :)
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Try to put it exactly behind your hearing area, building sort of a square behind you.

The following picture is not exactly that, but it will give you a clear idea of what I mean, except that the square should be behind you, not at your front or side, and it should also be "much" thicker than the two rectangles you can see here:

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So nearly finished it sounds great bass is good and stero field much better !
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Very nice, great job brother! It’s a place I would love to be in for recording music.

I used to have one of this Korg M1 you have there, did I enjoy it? oh yes, I did, it is a beautiful instrument!

It would have been cool to have two recordings, I mean, two reproductions of the ambience of your room, one before and another after this job, I didn’t realize asking you this.

Enjoy, cheers :wink:
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Thanks Nestor I found the M1 in a dumpster! it has a great Piano sound but I need to install a battery this will be my next project :wink: will also get rid of the Apc-40 for a Bcf-2000 now that I have Push
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if you ever get a chance of the t1 t2ex t3ex super m1 on roids

they have the abilty to load your own pcm samples

the m1 battery is a holder so its just a battery swap
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looking good.
the M1 battery is easy. getting the soundbanks so that you can reload them is a bit more of a hassle if you don't have them. a couple bucks...
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garyb wrote:looking good.
the M1 battery is easy. getting the soundbanks so that you can reload them is a bit more of a hassle if you don't have them. a couple bucks...
Do you mean that if he removes the battery, it will lose the banks? I thought that being the keyboard switched off, you can change the battery without affecting its data. Am I wrong?
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You have to reload the banks after battery change unless I leave it plugged into mains!! :lol: it's quite easy even girls can do it http://www.spacefold.com/colin/posts/20 ... ement.html
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that's right. that's what the battery is for.

the m1 has ram, not rom.

replacing the battery is not hard. it's a bit tedious, but if you don't move too fast and keep track of the screws, it's something that any studio owner should be able to handle. i'll bet there's instructions on youtube. :D
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if you want the sysex files i have thousands of them

the battery is a coin cr2032 you undo the screws to the bottom panel and then you will see the battey holder on the main board flip out old battery and push new one in

then re initialize and you will have the same sound on each preset

now you have to dump the sysex to get it back to factory or any sound set

download change it it has a generic sysex dumper set it to your m1 midi channels and turn on sysex rx

now take a sysex file and open it with change it and use your generic sysex dump page you created with the correct midi ports and send file about 15-20 seconds you will have a and b banks and multi bank

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Wow, thank you!

I have a Korg X5, which is, in fact, a version of the M1, and it came to the market a few years fater the M1, don't know, about 2 years after I remember.

This one:

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She procedure should be the same. I did not change its baterry for a long..., long..., long time... You scared me! :roll:
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x5 is the 01w with out the waveshapers and sequencer it has the m1 sound set the t1 and the 01w and the x3

sysex is not compatible as it uses the pcg type programs the 01w was the last to use the standard sysex

the m1 is the first generation as is the t1 t2/ex t3/ex which had extended rom 170+ instead of the 100 of the m1

the x5 is the 4th generation of the ai2 synth engine its a synth

the m1 and t1 are ai1 synth the m1 was brought out in 1998 and was produced until 1994 nearly 2 years after the end of the production of the t series which was a super m1 with more samples and 1mb pcm ram it also superseded the 01w the x3/x2/x3r the i2

the x5 came out in the late 1994 when the m1 production finished

and was korgs biggest selling synth until the triton series
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