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Imageline Harmor

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Anyone using this? I think it looks pretty cool.

http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Harmor/
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Not using this, but I do have Camel Audio's Alchemy, and by reading it's description, Harmor seems to only touch a few of the possibilities of Alchemy.

And that viking woman drawing... things like these put me off :wink: but so did the sonic unicor(e)n, or the add with the women's eyes. Everytime I see something like that, my head compulsively starts to shake...
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I miss the developer from Camel (R.I.P.)
I actually enjoy VSTi's that do what hardware can't do and go beyond the normal.
I should get Alchemy since it would play nice with Solaris and Modular.

The Unicorn and Glitter had to be a chick thing.........I would hope.
I just don't see Holger sprinkling things around like that.
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i have harmor its great little synth great for get single samples with good loops and then becuase its additive it dont play them like miunchkin when palying in the upper registered

what i like todo is get several single cycle samples and keep adding them it makes a great wavesequence going on looped

camel is still going but i still prefer chameleon

sytreus is one of the best imageline synths
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I'll try the demo. I read samples can be rendered from the demo. Looking for unique effects for acoustic samples.
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The image editing part may be interesting, tho it seems fairly gimmicky. Can't see myself using image editing as my primary way to create sounds. It's an interesting way and fun to experiment I'm sure, but I don't think it'll be predictable enough to be used for bread and butter sound design.

I'm listening to the demo.. Interestingly, I think from the abundance of additive / stft resynthesis synths out there, my ears have become so accustomed that I wasn't really able to pick out anything worth noting. I mean, the dub-step;s "aiaiaia" bass isn't really what comes to mind when I think of the most effective use of additive / stft resynthesis with image based editing. You do get a bunch of bellish tones, as expected with additive.

at $149 it seems a bit expensive.. maybe with a whole bunch of awesome presets it might be worth it..

Additive's one of those things where the synth really becomes a preset playback device since it takes a good amount of time to get your patches right. To me, Alchemy has become that. It's very capable and awesome, but it's too much for when I want to just whip out an exact sound I know how to make. I've tinkered with Alchemy on numerous occasions and never really yielded anything. And during production I never have time to tinker with it.
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I have no interest in the presets. The demo makes a white noise sound every 20 seconds but when switched to image mode, that annoying sound stopped for me. Not sure if there is a 30 day limit. I was able to export a sound as an image, put it into Photoshop Elements, alter it with a filter, then import the image back into Harmor. After a couple attempts, I came up with something interesting and bounced it into my sequence. If you are making many samples, this would be somewhat of a tedious process. I could imagine spending many hours doing this. It's worth it to me to have sounds that nobody else has.

Bombed one time, I assume because it's a 32bit app in a 64bit program. That is too common with third party programs and very lame.
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If you're interested in images creating sounds then Daphne Oram's Oramics machine (1962) is an interesting read and there are now a few CDs of her stuff appearing.

http://daphneoram.org/
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I love her and Dalhia Derbyshire. Pioneers indeed.
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Wolfgang Palm's synths on the iPad also do image->sound (but in his case, he makes a whole wavetable from the thing! Works great if you take a photo of a very patterned object, like wallpaper)
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braincell, good to hear you got something useful out of it. With previous image to audio stuff, I just got crazy sounds so maybe this one's a bit more practical.
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kensuguro wrote:braincell, good to hear you got something useful out of it. With previous image to audio stuff, I just got crazy sounds so maybe this one's a bit more practical.

There was a time when any sound produced by a synthesizer was considered odd. Funny how things change. For me "normal" is bad. I don't want anything to sound like what other people are doing. That is very boring for me.

Having said that, it can be used for subtle effects depending on your original sound. You can use it to remove partials in a way similar to Izotope Iris. I was able to clarify a plucked cello sample. The result reminded me of the change in timbre you get when you use another amp.
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for me I think it has more to do with getting the sound that's needed for the particular project. From a general perspective, I think getting new out of this world sounds is good, but that's not always in demand. So more often than not, I do need a synth to make bread and butter sound with the shortest tweaking time. Again though, that's not to say a tool that's able to make new sounds with a lot of tweak time is better than that can do the job with minimal tweak time (like prophet based synths).
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Resynthesis offers the advantage of better pitch shifting and time stretching than sampling when used in the extreme. These programs do alter the original sound even when played at the original pitch and length. Iris has a warm tone that I like on certain samples. Harmor is more accurate yet harsher sounding, better for some sounds.
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