pianoteq updates to 4.5 with refinements

[kensuguro]

This is great and all, but still surprised there are no competitors in physmod pianos. (The roland thing, ya, but that's rich man's gadget) I'd love to see more..

[petal]

I most impressed with the later versions of Pianoteq. It's still quite expensive though.

I watched the new video on their homepage, I was amazed and all and then I saw this:

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Tell us the story please

[yayajohn]

I've had the demo for a couple of weeks now and it sounds really good. Still debating whether or not I really need it though.

here is another one I was looking at, not sure if it's of the same caliber but it sounded pretty good to me as well.

http://www.truepianos.com/

[kensuguro]

huh, strange. I don't recall being specifically involved with the Bluthner model. I did beta test for them during the 4.0 release and also tested and did some of the electromagnetic piano demos. I gave some feedback on some audio examples so maybe that was the Bluthner, not sure.

[petal]

I don't think the Blüthner model is of any special connection here, even though it looks that way. The picture is just above the video on their homepage, and I decided to keep it there to communicate your name (which is spelled differently than here) associated with Pianoteq.

[braincell]

I keep waiting for the v-piano price to drop and it never did. They can't possibly sell that many.

[kensuguro]

Oh, I see. The clavinet demo in the video is the one I made, that's why. IMHO they should have used Jimmy's demo tho. I actually sent in a medley of different styles that put the clav in less "in your face" situations to show how clav was relevant in styles other than traditional funk, but they only used the first part of the medley, which turned out to be the one you hear in the video.

Here's the full medley:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/kensuguro.com. ... avdemo.mp3

You can tell I wasn't really going for a full production, but more like demonstrating different styles with minimal set of instruments and mostly just by arrangement. Highlighting the non-funk aspects of clav. (I personally like the hiphop one) Last part is really the only part that sounds like traditional funk, but in more of a loop context. I knew Jimmy was doing one, so didn't even bother with attempting a traditional funk demo. His clav cuts like razor, I'm not getting near that. ouch, sharp.

I do wish i could participate more in the pianoteq stuff. I've sort of been inconsistent with my followup with Fogwall so haven't been in contact lately. It's a remarkable piece of engineering, and I totally support not just Pianoteq, but all products with the same spirit.

I say this over and over, but for me, as a key player, it's a huge relief not to have to think about what piano sample to use, or which rhodes/wurly/clav lib to use. I just load up pianoteq and that's the end of story. I change a few settings, eq or comp or whatever, but it gets the job done 100% of the time so I never even think about it anymore. I still have not had an instance where I had to unload pianoteq for some other lib unless I wanted a particularly bad sounding piano. (like for trance-ish piano arpeg sequences or whatever) I mean other libs may have have certain nuances and was recorded on Mars and has 5tb worth of release sampels, etc. but really, as a composition tool, I don't give a damn. It's more important to me that the piano is there as a constant thing that does a consistent job without me having to worry abou tit all the time. Pianoteq does it just to the point where it has its own characteristic, the way it handles, and the amount that I need to adjust to it is about as much as need to do with a real piano (or a little less) and still produces the results.

[braincell]

The lite version is affordable. Maybe I will try the demo again. I find Vienna Imperial to be very warm sounding which I really like. I didn't get that feeling from Pianoteq. The Vienna Imperial has 1,200 recorded samples per key yet it loads very quickly. For those concerned about hard drive space, dude, hard drives are cheap these days. I don't see how anyone can tell the difference between this and a real piano when listening to it.

[dawman]

All Pianos sound good these days, it's hard to screw up the sound, but PTeq 4 has more than Pianos, plus it is totally customizable and has those Sostenuto Pedals Pianists use as their 3rd hand. Plus a Harmonic Pedal, and total control over the overtones we hear are strings vibrate into silence.
Sample developers knew that people buying their instruments would never buy a real Piano, or use the pedals like a Pianist would so they just left it out.
I actually have spoken to developers on how they would implement it and they don't even have an answer, or a method.
But smooth Jazz and JoeBob Country music has no need for more than 1 hand most of the time, and that's during the typically boring, predictable 8-16 bar solo where they attempt to put in a lifetime of practicing in s short audition of said bars.
Just got the new Uprights which are really the kind of Piano sounds I prefer.
When I want to be a perfectly smooth jazzed, milk & cheesed guy the perfectly tuned Pianos are good I suppose.

But try changing the resonance of the upper octaves for that single struck hanger note, and detune as if you were playing octaves. Then listen to the Harmonic or Sostenuto Pedal
That sound is unachievable with static samples.