RECORDING WITH SCOPE 4.5 AND REAPER PROBLEM

[quantum]

So I'm using a Lavry AD10(internal clock) and Scope Pulsar 1&2 with Scope 4.5. I tried recording in Reaper but the sound that comes in is distorted by this pulsating digital click. Same thing happens with Audition 3. But in FL, everything works fine. In fact I can choose to have a fine recording or the badly distorted one, which I would never record. What happens is that when XTC is in master and I set FL clock to master, I get the badly distorted sound. But when FL clock is in slave, the sound is crystal clear. In Audition and Reaper I couldn't find anywhere a window to set the programs clock to slave. And interestingly enough, both Audition and Reaper can play, edit, or be used for production, just not recording. The only other thing I haven't tried yet was to set XTC clock to slave before launching a DAW. Any thoughts?

[YISH313z]

You can only have one as the master

[quantum]

Thanks but I know that I think the question here is HOW DO I CHANGE SCOPE'S CLOCK TO SLAVE THROUGH REAPER???

[YISH313z]

Sorry I was at work when I posted,

Since you are slaving from the Lavry to Scope(I imagine), then you must set Scope to Slave by way of the Sample Rate setting in Scope.

Although you may or may not run into an issue with playback by being slaved to the Lavry. Its been so long since Ive dabbled in Digital signals routing

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[quantum]

That worked. Thanks.

[quantum]

I'm back at the same problem, but now with Audition 3.01. I'm using UA2192 as master clock feeding Pulsar 1 by SPDIF. The problem is in Audition 3 I can't change the ASIO clock from internal to external. I opened up XTCProject and added all the required modules and set the samplerate to Slave. But when I open up Audio Hardware Settings in Audition, the ASIO SCOPE is set to internal by default and without the option to change it. And again, with FL Studio I don't have that problem because it has the option to change from Master to Slave.

Any ideas out there?

[garyb]

don't use xtc mode.

[quantum]

don't use xtc mode.

Then how am I going to simultaneously play and record using SPDIF?

[astroman]

you cannot record and play simultaneously through S/PDIF on a Pulsar 1 (!)
that's available only on 2nd generation boards due to difference in hardware io-design
(3, 6, 14 and most 15 DSP boards, a small number of the latter has generation 1 io, too)

cheers, Tom

[quantum]

Actually I figured it out just now. I replaced my XTCProject project with the original version and now it mysteriously works. I even removed the 'merge' and 'directplay mixer'. The original project also has 4 ASIO ins and outs, mine has 2 ASIO ins and outs. So that was the problem all along. I needed to double the number of ASIO channels.

So yes you can do simultaneous playback with Pulsar 1 and Scope 4.5. Just set one track for output only and one for input only. You can also mute the input track so that you don't get some nasty feedback.

Here's the working project:

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[astroman]

cool if it works that way...
but that's no direct connection, it adds 2x Asio latency which you certainly wouldn't want with a realtime fx processor.
it first came to notice when people tried to insert devices like external Lexicons into the signal path.

in some cases it's indeed required to have the same number of Asio channels for In and Out

cheers, Tom

[garyb]

not using XTC mode doesn't limit your abilities to connect things in any way! in fact, it's the opposite...

[quantum]

not using XTC mode doesn't limit your abilities to connect things in any way! in fact, it's the opposite...

But then you would have to use Creamware Play/Rec WAV modules which have their own latency issues and problems with different DAWs. I know the card was made for Cubase, but Cubase has a steep learning curve and a badly designed interface. I just want to play and record in fullest possible quality, like floating point, through slave clocked SPDIF.

[garyb]

why would you have to use wave madules?

[garyb]

why not pm me? we can get you going over the phone.

[astroman]

... I just want to play and record in fullest possible quality, like floating point, through slave clocked SPDIF.

you completely miss the point here...
a seemingly high numeric precision doesn't warrant any fidelity on it's own - it's meaningless
if Audition creates crap, it will sound crappy in any output format
just a tiny bit off will most likely drown in the sound and become unnoticable.
you can't tell 18 from 20 bits anyway - one needs platinum ears for that trick.

forgetting the bigger is better bs makes life much easier
a good clock doesn't hurt, tho

cheers, Tom