The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[Nestor]

[garyb]

yeah, can't go with the romance.

even if that's inevitable, i'll resist it and i won't think it's beautiful. to me, it's just the evil that wishes for human destruction rearing it's head once more, this time with a pretty face. any excuse for utter destruction is the same to me.

[Nestor]

After the day it comes the night, and we are finishing our night, so there will be a new day.

[garyb]

yes, nothing lasts forever.

[hubird]

Hm, not my cup of tea, instead of a congenial whole I'd go for, eh, individualism in a social environment, instead of a congenial whole, but that's personal.

Yet, peace and spirituality instead of coming wars and suggestive pictures: I sign for it.
I would even remove my signature if you'd go on with this positive feeling.
I'm serious

Btw, I tried to google some of the pixel text, with no result.
Where did you actually get the pictures from?

Take it easy with the message I'd say, one can understand of it what he wants.
It's completely associative and poetic, and that's the way I would look at it.

Yet if you luxuriate in it...the idea of a conflict-less and totally harmonic world looks nice just if you somehow fear the evil side of humanity and nature.
The evil side is nature, but that message can be confronting if true.

Perfect harmony, hm...no perfect without not perfect.
"Children have no questions", but what if a child suddenly starts asking questions?
No questions, no future.
No disharmony, no development.
Which idea isn't so problematic for a modern composer or musician, after all.


Btw, who never had this kind of conversation with a little child?:

Child: daddy?
Dad: yes dear?
Child: why doggy can't talk daddy?
Dad: because doggy never learned to, dear.
Child: why doggy never learned to daddy?
Dad: because doggy not went to doggy school, dear.
Child: why doggy not went to doggy school daddy?
Dad: because there are no doggy teachers. Dear.

Child: Daddy?
Dad: yes sweety?
Child: Why are you not a doggy teacher?

Dad: because doggy's can't talk, Sweety.
Child: why doggy's can't talk daddy?
etc.

Don't have children tho, not even a dog

[Nestor]

Riots are getting bigger and much more violent in Greece and Spain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkIfc00a ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... RWysrTjQxg#!

Meanwhile, Egypt has also entered the riots dividing itself in twice, but now? What a bad moment to fight against themselves this is...

[dawman]

Zionists are at the heart of the Egyptian uprisings, well that's what the new Dick-tator will say.
It might a tough go trying to subdue an entire nations people again, but we will send billions to help as Congress won't make any decisions here at home, thankfully, but they love to meddle overseas.
We can't buy Morsi, so we'll rent him...

During these world crisises I decided to splurge on Black Friday. That way I will stay busy until I take a break, see the world, and try to forget about it again....
Check Out Sweetwater.

[hubird]

don't worry, 50 or 100 years at least is often normal for social changes to be effective.

[Nestor]

You're right Daw, otherwise you get crazy... go, see and play a few new instruments out there...

Poor Egypt, they are now worse than before... They had the hope for a new life, and got an even older one... Poor people honestly. Tourism is almost over too, so the most important source of income has been stopped as nobody wants to fly to a country where you don't know what may happen to you.

[hubird]

Poor Egypt, they are now worse than before... They had the hope for a new life, and got an even older one...

Change never follows a flat path...don't look too close at the small waves, but see the direction of the flood...

Morsi knows already what a full Tahrir Square can do...

[dawman]

The Nile with flood with cash, as the Suez is theirs to control, that's why we send them shakedown money. Our "leaders" don't care about uneducated, or even uducated peasants, trade and self enrichment are their main goals, so we will provide the money for the bullets, and a short term peace agreement, we will pay over and over as we always have, but the old Nassir trick of blocking the Suez is where the real action is, so that really is the big picture, not the freedom of people with no money. What use are they..?

[hubird]

an interesting and respectable vision.

[next to nothing]

As resources get scarce, it seems the riots are getting started. People deprived of neccecities are doing whatever they can to provide their families with essential goods.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/a-glim ... ck-friday/

[hubird]

some nice comments overthere

[dawman]

My Local called me to join in a protest at WalMart and I said Hell No...
First off, they need to find 1.8 million new suckers to fund their Pension funds they blew on politics along with the huge warchest of members dues, now they want me to stand in the way of these feverish, Doomsday Preppers......
I like Cyber Monday better anyway.
WalMart is a great place to see local stars incognito at 0300 hours when the stores is empty. They sneak in w/ Ball Caps and shades, but their fine figures give them away.

But the best reason is that's when the Meth heads go shopping, and they tweak at the check out lanes.
Lady pays for merchandise than walks off w/o the goods.
Checker yells Ma'am...you left your goods,......oh thank you,....
Comes back and gets the goods then leaves her purse..........ma'am you left your purse......

[Nestor]

Riots in Egypt are going mad and bigger every day and there are new riots already programmed by both sides. With Egypt in such a weak political and social situation the Middle East panorama is worsening, adding to the general war conflict.

[hubird]

let's see if the mediation by minister Ahmed Mekky between Mursi and the judiciary helps.
It could be Mursi restrains himself a bit, surprised maybe by the massive protests.

I don't believe this 'is adding to the general war conflict'.
The mid-East was always full of 'small' conflicts and threatening.
Already way before you started to read the news!
Democracy needs time, we in Holland once had bloody conflicts between Protestants and Catholics...a few centuries ago.

[valis]

"Reality is that which doesn't go away when you stop believing in it" - R.A.W.

[hubird]

'The general war conflict' is a prediction, a prophecy, not a reality (yet).
It has to be proved right first, isn't it?

Besides, first we need to define The General War Conflict' before making wild predictions, which actually is my point.
An attack to Iran's underground nuclear installations doesn't qualify for that to start with.

Btw, googling that quote tells me Philip K Dick made that statement?
Isn't your nick derived from one of his early 80's romans or is it accidental?

[garyb]

it's true, regardless of who said it.

we do want the truth, right? even if you or i say it, right?