Ivy Bridge vs. Sandy Bridge

[braincell]

Don't really need a new case but I really love this case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811119265

[hubird]

looks like my laundry basket

[dawman]

That's the best cooling for overclocking case around. Many geeks that help me at MSI have a bench they prepare their war machines on but that case is the rave right now.
FWIW, you can OC the Ivy Bridge GPU seperately on a decent motherboard and adjust needed memory as you run throught BIOS.
You can also add the power of the onboard GPU to cards installedd too.
But know this.
The i7 3770 will OC to 4.2, the 3770K will go to 4.5, but it's hot as hell, and the watts skyrocket. You might want to wait for the Haswell CPU or use these adapters.

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=C7B9 ... it+adapter

[Fluxpod]

Just for a second oppinion on msi...I had one board of them.Voltage regulators died and took off the mb and the power supply in a spectacular bang after 1 year.Will not buy from them again.No idea how the new boards from them are.

[dawman]

It's my second i7 board from them. I was a Supermicro/Intel guy, but at CES 2010 I saw their boards and really liked their Miltary line up. Very Bells & Whistles, but all quality parts and very short trace lines. Never crashed yet, but I watched their GD65s get a few BIOS upgrades, and noticed only minor problems, but they were addressed quick and actually you can speak on their forum directly to Taiwan.

What's really Cool about the Intel Graphics is how I can adjust the LCD COntrast to view at any angle, and their colors, hues, and tweaks are excellent for dark room.
I actually took a screen shot to show you guys, but it came out as if the same of Hues and colors were used, even though I hit Print Screen.

I have Scope near darkness, with Flourescent colors for connections, background under texts, it's really a great Chipset/CPU/GPU Combo, totally impressed.
And there's 3 screen capability right now with 4 screens in October, but that seems a bit behind.

With MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc. I think they all have bypassed Foxconn..........sorry...I meant Intel. Just stick with the better parts like Jap Caps and 6 Phase VR's, short trace lines and you'll be fine. I was going to show this killer screenshot, but when I called up the png. I was shocked it kept the original screen while displaying the pimped out Scope. It's looks awesome, I'd buy a Z77 just for that reason and the angled LCD tweaks.

[Bud Weiser]

Don't really need a new case but I really love this case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811119265

Killer !
Great find, very welcome and available in germany too,- cool.

thx for the link

Bud

[braincell]

So I guess overclocking isn't recommended in a DAW? I'm looking at water cooling now.

[Bud Weiser]

So I guess overclocking isn't recommended in a DAW? I'm looking at water cooling now.

I still have a overclocked Intel dual core (Pentium D 945) machine which works great w/ VST, Phead Reason 6.5 and SCOPE 5.1 and XITE-1 as it did w/ SCOPE 4 and Creamware DSP PCI.
Overclocking is under 12% though, resulting in 3.832 GHz w/ the PC800 RAM @902MHz.

Next machine w/ Intel Ivy Bridge 3770 will not be overclocked because 4 cores w/ stock speed, more cache and the better proc architecture will be powerfull enough IMO.

In general, I expect DSP systems to be picky on too much overclocking, but probably it wouldn´t harm the system using a O/C rate which matches the speed turbo mode of the Ivy Bridge procs delivers,- but w/o the pain of processor speed ramp up/down decided by the OS.
So, when turbo goes up to p.ex. 3.8 GHz per core, I think constantly overclocking the overall system to that speed w/ turbo deactivated is no prob except more power consumption and more heat.
But no guarantee, I´m not sure and would like to learn more about this too if I´m wrong.

I expect you´d not be able to do that in a 1HU rack-case, but can do that in a 4HU or the Coolermaster mentioned above, depending on selection of PSU, the right RAM sticks, processor cooler and case fans.

No watercooling for me,- I think of buying the Coolermaster cube case and I´d put it in a flightcase just only for transport.

I´d throw in a ASUS P8Z77-M micro ATX mobo, i7 3770, 8GB G.SKILL RipjawsX F3 12800 CL9, Enermax Platimax 500W PSU, Alpenföhn Groß Clock´ner CPU cooler and NB case fans.
For the time being, I use standard 3.5" SATA II harddrives because I have enough of these here.
WD VelocityRaptor 150GB for system, WD Caviar Black AALS6400 for recording and WD Caviar Black 1001FALS for samples.
LiteOn iHAS 424 optical drive, pulled from my old machine.
If it doesn´t fit the cube case,- I have an ext. enclosure which is enough because I only need optical drive for installations.
All-in-all the cheapest solution for me ...
I think that´s a cool machine for XITE-1 and SCOPE 5.1,- later SCOPE 6.

The old dual core for SCOPE PCI again then and using my 19" EYE 4HU server rackmount case.

Bud

[braincell]

I can not believe I will have this computer built in just 2 more days with an i7 Quad Core and 32 gigs of RAM!

Important note from Steinberg:

For optimal performance under Windows 8 the "Activate Steinberg Power Scheme" in the Cubase / Nuendo Device Setup must be disabled."

The performance in Windows 8 is about the same as Windows 7 with a clean OS:

https://www.raincomputers.co.uk/windows ... -a/289.htm

I do not think I will need to run 64 instances of Halion but that's impressive! My 5 year old computer is getting creaky.

DSP cards were an excellent idea when computers sucked also for DRM which isn't my concern! There is no reason why all or most of the Scope modules can't be ported over for software without a card but now they have the problem that it would undercut Xite sales, again not my problem. The Xite is overkill for most people. It's a cool concept but mainly made for the engineers themselves with little regard for what the average musician and enthusiast needs.

[valis]

lol braincell, always the decider of what applies to the masses.

[dawman]

DSP cards were an excellent idea when computers sucked also for DRM which isn't my concern! There is no reason why all or most of the Scope modules can't be ported over for software without a card but now they have the problem that it would undercut Xite sales, again not my problem. The Xite is overkill for most people. It's a cool concept but mainly made for the engineers themselves with little regard for what the average musician and enthusiast needs.

That's becasue the average musician these days can't perfom live, can't read, and have no clue what a Sostenuto Pedal is on their RAID Piano.
Don't sweat it, when the XITE-1 becomes one of their lower performing products, you might have discovered a way to concentrate, by that time, I feel confident you will learn how to read, and be an average musician, and I'll give it to you cheap.

But please give me a price on your Luna card, my son has an empty slot I wish to fill....

[Bud Weiser]

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That's becasue the average musician these days can't perfom live, can't read, and have no clue what a Sostenuto Pedal is on their RAID Piano.

This !

Bud

[braincell]

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That's becasue the average musician these days can't perfom live, can't read, and have no clue what a Sostenuto Pedal is on their RAID Piano.

This !

Bud

You should not quote him because I blocked that clown. Now I have to read his bullshit. He should stick with his whores and Vegas Elvis impersonators for friendship.

[dawman]

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That's becasue the average musician these days can't perfom live, can't read, and have no clue what a Sostenuto Pedal is on their RAID Piano.

This !

Bud

You should not quote him because I blocked that clown. Now I have to read his bullshit. He should stick with his whores and Vegas Elvis impersonators for friendship.

I am glad he did so we could watch you flip out like every other thread you try and pretend you still own a Scope card, then the usual snide remarks come back as you cry the same pathetic story over and over.

And lets face reality, you always unblock it to read, so you can't even tell yourself the truth.

But before you go, post some of those forearm excercises you call Avant Garde on your RAID Piano for us.
Maybe someday those dreams you share with us about Symphonys having you as a guest performer, or the Big " Dance " company productions you are involved with might even have an article in some newspaper about the infamous crowd killer...." Braincell. "

Ankyu

[Bud Weiser]

I am glad he did so we could watch you flip out...

... or the Big " Dance " company productions you are involved with might even have an article in some newspaper about the infamous crowd killer...." Braincell. "

Ankyu

That´s pure entertainment for our braincells !

thx a lot

Ivy & Sandy Bridge

[braincell]

By the way Bud, Dawman is one of the many wack jobs we have who don't think global warming is real or man made.

I am glad he did so we could watch you flip out...

... or the Big " Dance " company productions you are involved with might even have an article in some newspaper about the infamous crowd killer...." Braincell. "

Ankyu

That´s pure entertainment for our braincells !

thx a lot

Ivy & Sandy Bridge

[hubird]

That's becasue the average musician these days can't perfom live, can't read, and have no clue what a Sostenuto Pedal is on their RAID Piano.

A few notes, release time, dynamics, and for sure pedaltechnic: Canto Sonato, by Simeon ten Holt who died recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDCsOL2vBJc
Back then I thought it's not-too-bad new age stuff, but these days I think it's Holt himself.
Not the best recording you can google (title), yet no ad in front

[dawman]

Jeopardy A.JPG

[dawman]

You can always tell a dedicated Pianist. Years of practice ensures one need not stare at the keys as he then is not listening to the other performers, or he isn't reading.
The above link is an example of hard work that paid off.

Here's 2 former Scope users collaborating......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o284As3SfCA

[hubird]

nice find, I like the (Psytrance) music tho.

edit: well, nice find, yes, but I don't feel invited to put both names on the same line.
just to stay correctly.