The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

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thanks Valis.
Not easy to read and understand sometimes your contributions, for a non native reader, but appreciated :-)
Nestor wrote:, and Obama has won the elections as most expected in mainstream news. Poor people!
poor people :-?
according to your own 'theories' it doesn't matter who wins (won).
Both parties are puppets of the Illuminati, isn't it?
well, then either people are 'poor', because it does make a difference who wins, or people just live their life as usual because it does not make a difference...or?
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It doesn't make a difference in fundamental human matters, it does redirect the flow of income slightly which imo is what most people care about in politics anyway once the hot-button issues are played out.

Food for thought hubird: http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012
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Thank you Valis for your writing, I'm refering to your long post, I would call it: "reality at your fingertips".


Your ideas, explanations and expressions bring me to the bottom line philosophy of the elites since they started their expansion hundreds of years ago that says:

“We will make of every section of the establishment the contrary to what it represents for people, sort of calling "rght" to the "left", and "left" to the "right": The ministry of health will be in fact, the ministry of illness. The ministry of peace will be in fact, the ministry of war. The ministry of economy will be in fact, the ministry of robbery. The ministry of education will be in fact, the ministry of ignorance. The ministry of Food and Drugs administration will be in fact, the ministry of poison and destruction of your immune system”, and so forth and so forth.......

This bit of philosophy that twists upside-down your perception of such and such establishment is one of the most important foundations of the elites that rule the world. Obama is part of this human extravaganza and it is a hypocritical person that can give cuddles in the street to those that he knows must betray through his administration led by his covetous owners, what would you call a person like this? I would call it a traitor to the human race. This is what all of us will have the opportunity to see in the following four years.
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valis wrote:It doesn't make a difference in fundamental human matters, it does redirect the flow of income slightly which imo is what most people care about in politics anyway once the hot-button issues are played out.

Food for thought hubird: http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012
it depends on what you call fundamental human matters.
Equal rights for gay people (marriage) can be called like that, ask them...

great tone and approach on that site, love it.
Not only thoughts for me by the way...some could profit also from it.

Let me explain again something.
I know about the forces behind the direct politics, at school already.
In my student days I studied Marxist inspired papers and books and also 'normal' studies about the subject drawing the same conclusions, the term American Imperialism as a folo up of old colonialism was confident to me at the time (expandable to 'Western' imperialism of course)
And I for sure don't see America's democracy as an honest and open political system.
America is screwed by brutal capitalism, locked in its trenches of libertarians and social-democrats.
Can't help, as said it's not my country.

Yet that knowledge doesn't make me hate any chosen authority or political organisation in principal, like some seem to propagate here, ánd I don't like it if that conclusion is enforced to be the house style of planetz...
Which isn't so anymore, so I'm happy already and keep enjoying the debate (or demask slavery followership of dark fantasies without understanding).

For the rest:
Despite the small margins in possible policies between the two camps I am happy that Obama won, and for those who think Obama and Romney are represantants of the same elite: they can be happy also, as it doesn't matter who won, unless the social yet slight redirection of income is fundamental to you :-)
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remarkable, didn't know it is already that far in the US.
having spoken here about marihuana:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/amer ... iet__.html
(no need to look for an Engklish pendant, it's clear enough :) ).
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Wow! Thank you for the world contribution and amazing changes to society you have just done with your speech! Contratulations! :P
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Long time no seen you man Stardust :)
Well, the elections did evoked a few eruptions, from my side also, but besides that we're doing fine these days :wink:
As long as I don't feel spammed by nightmare prophecies stated as facts I'm fine.

Yes my friend Nestor, you may laugh at Stardust because you may disagree and feel strong because of your patrons.
But you -as admin- could also think ''hey, even when I don't agree it's not good to see such posts on planetz''. Too much serious and long term frustration with some members is a sign for something...
Remember the nuts post? there's some anger behind such and other's posts, not everyone wants to act so evil-ish as me and risk social isolation here.

You as admin and lover of peace and deep thought should in fact be worried about that, specially because you was (are) in the middle of the situation...
Hoped the thread would slowly dissolve, but every now and then you pull on your Messiah robe and start making terrible doom prophecies again, haha.
I don't mind, you know I'm here to discuss the things together with you...

(leave it Garyb, for one time for G.'s sake)
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Thank you for all your heartfelt feelings Stardust! I would not know what to do without your support! Please, keep loving me as intensely as today, I rely need “your approval” and wonderful human emotions to be able to BE MYSELF, I would not bear not to have your approval, please, don’t ever go away…, my being needs you!

Common man, who do you think you are, Jesus?

Go and lie to someone else, or try doing it in front of your own mirror you may even end up believing it yourself, but it does not and will not work with me, sorry. The use of some meaningful words means nothing to me, you have first to incarnate them in your presence, in your real life, anyone can talk, but few can be what they say. You are not what you say, your own words reflects it. I don’t have time for your emptiness and I don’t have time for your loved friend either. Do not lose your time, honestly, I will not answer you. You should, in the first place not be here as you are complaining about being here as someone that we have brought by force, (in this you are identical to your friend), this is an unintelligent masochism, as stupid as it can get! Go back to your perfect world, and then get back to this thread in four years, your views of the world would already have changed enough to understand what we are talking about here, as you will be able to witness by yourself what you have subconsciously denied using me as the inner projection that you don’t want to accept in your own psychology.

As a last hint for your understanding, and final words: look at what you do, you come back without having read what people have said in these last months in this thread, there are many interesting conversations, jokes, links, thoughts, facts, etc., and without doing any analysis, you take your keyboard and start writing many adjectives here and there that together means simply nothing solid, you have not an argument, you reject everything because YOU ARE LIVING IN THE PAST, you came back to this thread and kept going with the exact same feelings you leaved a few months ago. You have even forgotten that the meaning of zealots has been already explained to you as been wrong, but you still use it in the same way, that means that you are someone that never changes a dot of what he is, you are behind the facts, and behind the time of this thread. Please, go back to your perfect world and let us be in our own imperfect world, we poor mortals.

Anyway, so many great feelings you pretend to express are nothing but self-love, love for yourself, because if you would really be someone with good feelings and understanding for others, the first thing you would do is having some respect for what others think and are doing, and you would profess real love, which includes fogginess and charity. If you truly think I am an imbecile that does not know what he is talking about and that I am in fact suffering for what I think it is the end of our society as we know it today, you should have some compassion for me, and not sarcasm, you should treat me with patience, not with cynicism. If you were such a good person as you paint yourself in the fresco of your dreams, you would not come here trying to look for the anger of Gary, because this is exactly what you are doing, you are looking for fights, you better go with your friend, he likes this stupid endless talks without meaning or reason, and keep talking to each other the whole day through if you like, but let people think by themselves. Gary did not even talk about you all these months, but you come back with the same excrement in your fingers and through up all over the place. If you actually were such a good person, you should so think about all this and be willing to change the stupid pride you have for yourself, the stupid love for your own person. Your self-love is a clear prove that you are a kid, go back to your perfect world and keep playing with your Game-Boy until the ruff falls into your head, you may perhaps grow up finally by the force of events. Do not look for brainless fights anymore; you may end up finding only more emptiness than then one you already have. If you have, nevertheless, a genuine interest in this thread, about what people say and want to COMMUNICATE with us, you will always be welcomed :wink:
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Nestor wrote:Thank you for all your heartfelt feelings Stardust! I would not know what to do without your support! Please, keep loving me as intensely as today, I rely need “your approval” and wonderful human emotions to be able to BE MYSELF, I would not bear not to have your approval, please, don’t ever go away…, my being needs you!

Common man, who do you think you are, Jesus?

Go and lie to someone else, or try doing it in front of your own mirror you may even end up believing it yourself, but it does not and will not work with me, sorry. The use of some meaningful words means nothing to me, you have first to incarnate them in your presence, in your real life, anyone can talk, but few can be what they say. You are not what you say, your own words reflects it. I don’t have time for your emptiness and I don’t have time for your loved friend either. Do not lose your time, honestly, I will not answer you. You should, in the first place not be here as you are complaining about being here as someone that we have brought by force, (in this you are identical to your friend), this is an unintelligent masochism, as stupid as it can get! Go back to your perfect world, and then get back to this thread in four years, your views of the world would already have changed enough to understand what we are talking about here, as you will be able to witness by yourself what you have subconsciously denied using me as the inner projection that you don’t want to accept in your own psychology.

As a last hint for your understanding, and final words: look at what you do, you come back without having read what people have said in these last months in this thread, there are many interesting conversations, jokes, links, thoughts, facts, etc., and without doing any analysis, you take your keyboard and start writing many adjectives here and there that together means simply nothing solid, you have not an argument, you reject everything because YOU ARE LIVING IN THE PAST, you came back to this thread and kept going with the exact same feelings you leaved a few months ago. You have even forgotten that the meaning of zealots has been already explained to you as been wrong, but you still use it in the same way, that means that you are someone that never changes a dot of what he is, you are behind the facts, and behind the time of this thread. Please, go back to your perfect world and let us be in our own imperfect world, we poor mortals.

Anyway, so many great feelings you pretend to express are nothing but self-love, love for yourself, because if you would really be someone with good feelings and understanding for others, the first thing you would do is having some respect for what others think and are doing, and you would profess real love, which includes fogginess and charity. If you truly think I am an imbecile that does not know what he is talking about and that I am in fact suffering for what I think it is the end of our society as we know it today, you should have some compassion for me, and not sarcasm, you should treat me with patience, not with cynicism. If you were such a good person as you paint yourself in the fresco of your dreams, you would not come here trying to look for the anger of Gary, because this is exactly what you are doing, you are looking for fights, you better go with your friend, he likes this stupid endless talks without meaning or reason, and keep talking to each other the whole day through if you like, but let people think by themselves. Gary did not even talk about you all these months, but you come back with the same excrement in your fingers and through up all over the place. If you actually were such a good person, you should so think about all this and be willing to change the stupid pride you have for yourself, the stupid love for your own person. Your self-love is a clear prove that you are a kid, go back to your perfect world and keep playing with your Game-Boy until the ruff falls into your head, you may perhaps grow up finally by the force of events. Do not look for brainless fights anymore; you may end up finding only more emptiness than then one you already have. If you have, nevertheless, a genuine interest in this thread, about what people say and want to COMMUNICATE with us, you will always be welcomed :wink:

Do you ever re-read your comments?
Sorry but i really really hope you are not like that in real life.
You are out of your mind.I hope you have a lifetime supply of tinfoil.
Really Nestor..........Thats NUTS.
Sorry for you :/


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The use of some meaningful words means nothing to me., add to this: used as a way of trying to pass or make people believe that you are a cool person, when you are in fact and agresive one looking for fights. Is it so hard to undertand, really?
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Hey guys, discuss the topic, concepts, and thoughts. Not the person. Your thoughts may oppose and you may have abrasive discussions (thoughts vs thoughts), but that is different from pitting person against person, or criticizing another person.
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Nestor wrote:The use of some meaningful words means nothing to me., add to this: used as a way of trying to pass or make people believe that you are a cool person, when you are in fact and agresive one looking for fights. Is it so hard to undertand, really?
Its not hard to understand.It just doesnt make any sense.Its not about beeing cool.Its about realising that the world you are living in is not half as controlled as you may believe.
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Nestor, do something with the signs from several directions, don't fight the content of Stardust or others, but take the message as such.
People don't like it to be told how the future 'definitely' looks, when the world ends, when the nuclear war starts, or at what date the Illuminati will establish the new world order...geez.
Try to convince your family, your friends, your private social environment of your visions.
We are not here for you, we are here for our fun.
We don't need a Messiah, we are well informed adults.
How many nuts do you wanne get?
It's just as simple as that.
Of course you can vent your opinion here and there, but don't make planetz your personal platform for a vision which hardly anyone believes.

Get the message, please, that's what I say.
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kensuguro wrote:Hey guys, discuss the topic, concepts, and thoughts. Not the person. Your thoughts may oppose and you may have abrasive discussions (thoughts vs thoughts), but that is different from pitting person against person, or criticizing another person.
Thank you Ken for your kind and wise words, they make total sense to me :)

What happened is that this person comes here, after months of absence, looking for fights which are something I have tried to avoid from the first day and on in this thread. He has always done the same, he comes to the thread to specifically threaten Gary for a fight, go back and see for yourself, every time has been the same. Worst of all, he wants to make people believe he is a cool, peaceful person. This is what I did not like about his writing. Nevertheless, as you could read from my answer to him, this was my last response. I am not interested in fights, honestly, but in understanding. Nevertheless, not answering this one would be a lack of respect to myself and a lack of consideration for Gary that did nothing wrong.
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Riots in Greece have increased big time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVVzr5Sx ... r_embedded
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Please Keep it Together Nestor.
http://vimeo.com/52603601
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Oh an btw...Afrika will Zef yo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... IXUgtNC4Kc

I take mild credit in that video <3 >3 :lol:
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Nestor wrote:
kensuguro wrote:Hey guys, discuss the topic, concepts, and thoughts. Not the person. Your thoughts may oppose and you may have abrasive discussions (thoughts vs thoughts), but that is different from pitting person against person, or criticizing another person.
Thank you Ken for your kind and wise words, they make total sense to me :)

What happened is that this person comes here, after months of absence, looking for fights which are something I have tried to avoid from the first day and on in this thread. He has always done the same, he comes to the thread to specifically threaten Gary for a fight, go back and see for yourself, every time has been the same. Worst of all, he wants to make people believe he is a cool, peaceful person. This is what I did not like about his writing. Nevertheless, as you could read from my answer to him, this was my last response. I am not interested in fights, honestly, but in understanding. Nevertheless, not answering this one would be a lack of respect to myself and a lack of consideration for Gary that did nothing wrong.

I love how you praise Kens words, then skip 1 line and continue doing the excact opposite :)

Just relax, it's just a forum.
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next to nothing wrote:it's just a forum.
well now, that's true!
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next to nothing wrote: I love how you praise Kens words, then skip 1 line and continue doing the excact opposite :)
this too...
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