The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[Nestor]

I have remastered the two first songs I did a while ago with regard to this thread and have added a third song I finished today with a poem called “The Aftermath of a Fallen Empire”. This last song interprets the mind of a father after the total fall of Europe which will complete in a few years from now, describing his helplessness and sadness to see its city in darkness and seen himself without the possibility to help his children, wife and neighbors. He has lost his hope and all he can do is wondering about the streets in the search for some food and water. It represents a period of anxiety and nakedness that will extend to most nations, millions of people will suffer the same situation.

The falling of Europe has already started, it is an undeniable fact: riots, economical problems and serious political problems, as I expected, are becoming bigger and bigger and the result of it all, with the spreading of the complicated war in the Middle East already started (in purpose), will be the falling to ground of this ancient and powerful empire.

As the time goes by under this situation, we will end up in the atomic war we have been talking about in this thread, and this atomic war will unfortunately spread to many other nations around our planet.

I have called these songs “The Trouble Trilogy”

Here you have:

http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=31426

[hubird]

It's sad, I really hoped you'd let the thread die out, at least it looked so last week.
Now you predict the end of Europe in the next few year(s), even the end of time actually.
You must be nuts indeed, or you need help man.

The falling of Europe has already started, it is an undeniable fact: riots, economical problems and serious political problems, as I expected, are becoming bigger and bigger and the result of it all, with the spreading of the complicated war in the Middle East already started (in purpose), will be the falling to ground of this ancient and powerful empire.

As the time goes by under this situation, we will end up in the atomic war we have been talking about in this thread, and this atomic war will unfortunately spread to many other nations around our planet.

[garyb]

hubird, i'm sure that the truly "well-to-do" won't have any real problems in any case. maybe in a few years, Holland can have it's own slums and then you can wonder at the decay. or you can go to the non-tourist sections of some of the bigger cities...

i'm sure that economic collapse is unthinkable in a land built on control of the world's shipping.

your happy situation is enviable.

[dawman]

My Grandmother migrated to the US from Germany and had a simple explanation for anything from the South.
She used Ireland as an example as Protestants were hard working and Catholics had too many children and were therfore overburdened.
Said the same thing about Europe, and then I asked what about the South here Grandma, and she said they were doing just fine and wealthier than those Northern Catholics up until the Northern Aggression, she wouldn't even call it the Civil War.
I am sure things are not like that at all anymore as more and more of Europe seems very secular than it was 70 years ago.

But now that I think about it, southern Vegas is where all of the bread is and all of the work, North Las Vegas has declared bancrupcy, leads the nation in ubnemployment and foreclosures, maybe I should see if Grandmas Century old prediction stil holds true.

Canada and the USA are pretty much W.A.S.P. still, Mexico and South America stop Cartel wars and declare peace for when the Pope comes, and their country has a far worse income inequality than we do.
Hell if we didn't need their blow to finish a 6 night gig, or reefer to stay cool, there would be billions less flowing into Mexico.

Wow, even LA has the northern side of town being full of movie stars and Rodeo Blvd., Melrose, and then we have south central......interesting for sure.

FWIW we now have troops in Turkey on the border, and in Jordan, Iraq, Afghanistan and 5 African nations, and these are just the ones we hear about.
After seeing the recent Benghazzi brain farts from Clinton and Obama, I am sure the Islamists aren't worried about a thing, as we only kill in the name of Human rights where there is Oil.
If you don't have Oil, you don't have Human Rights.

[hubird]

hubird, i'm sure that the truly "well-to-do" won't have any real problems in any case. maybe in a few years, Holland can have it's own slums and then you can wonder at the decay. or you can go to the non-tourist sections of some of the bigger cities...

i'm sure that economic collapse is unthinkable in a land built on control of the world's shipping.

your happy situation is enviable.

Sure, everything is possible, and of every single euro we earn there's more than 3/4 of it realized outside our borders indeed.
I like to discuss those things, the chance that it will happen, to what degree, etc.
However Nestor seems to know more than the rest of the world.

(...) and the result of it all, (...) will be the falling to ground of this ancient and powerful empire.

Europe an ancient and powerful empire?
Haha, we used to kill each other all the time after the depart of the Romans, until some smart minds in 1945 thought let's do it differently for once and for all (thanks to the Bilderberg elite, yes).
Sounds romantic, the fall of the ancient and powerfull empire Europe, but it's cheap drama based on doom fixation and wishfull thinking caused by ego-central positioning of the prophet himself.

Mind you if I would constantly predict the end of Chile in a couple of months here...

[Eanna]

It's an oldie but a goodie...

http://xkcd.com/386/

Not to be outdone by...

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/venting.png

[hubird]

b-b-but...I don't wanne die...soon

[dawman]

Don't read Revelations then. I'd say we are on the 4th or 5th Seal right now...

[hubird]

I lost you here...
revelations, seal numbers...

Guessing:
according to your and Garyb's contributions Nestor's 'revelations' are worth getting explained and defended, isn't it?
So to me it's worth to criticize them.
And about Nestor: heavy is the head that wears the crown...
A prophet's fate it is...

But to me it would be perfect to see this thread getting 'sealed', closed, locked.
There's always the Music section as proved alternative, after all wasn't music the most powerful language in the world? *INDEED*
We could ask the administrator to lock the thread...wait, wasn't Nestor...

[garyb]

but if it's just foolishness, why not let everyone have their fun?

why so mean?

[dawman]

Really I was hoping to see people use their imagination and start citing their own versions of Revelations, or Pslams 23:

Yeaa, though I walk through the valley of UN worshippers, I fear no evil,
For they know not how to fire a weapon, or hunt for their own food.........

you know....stuff like that.

No need to lock a successful thread, where would you go...?

[hubird]

ok then, let's go on, I don't mind, on the contrary.
I'm only re-acting every time, it's his (agressively spammed) one-directional mission, not mine.

[Nestor]

Iran is getting ready to answer with a massive counterattack in case they are attacked first. As said a few weeks ago in this thread, the upcoming USA presidential elections will be the key to the way the next steps are going to be taken. Civil unrest, depending on the winner of the elections, may be expected.

Which is the real thing in the following two links?, both are real, every nation has chemical weapons and lies are there too, if a false flag is needed:
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/mi ... -stockpile

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 67,00.html

Greece is already broken. It looked like impossible, but it 4 years it happened. Now, who’s next?
http://personalliberty.com/2012/10/17/our-greek-tragedy

[Nestor]

Iran Launches Submarine and Destroyer into Gulf During US Naval Exercises

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/ ... cises.html

[dawman]

That's gotta suck trying to look out of the Periscope with a towel on your head..
I bet the Pope could do this and still leave that International House Of Pancakes Chefs hat he wears on his head...

[hubird]

I'm eventually more concerned about a (supposed) plan of Iran to voluntary cause a environmental disaster by sinking an oil tanker in the Gulf.
Dependancy of Iran in cleaning operations would make Iran stronger in the anti nuclear negotiations, spinners say.

Sabre rattling probably, all of it.

A towel however could be handy in case water comes down through the periscope tho...

[dawman]

Russian subs do seem to have lots of leaks...

It figures they would threaten to show the world how stupid they are by threatening an Oil Spill.
Next thing you know they'll be surrendering to Journalists.

[hubird]

nah...no leaks, that's cooling water for the nuclear engine...

[Nestor]

Look at that:

https://www.bof.nl/2012/10/18/dutch-pro ... computers/

[hubird]

Holland had elections last September.
Anti Islam Wilders lost and the richt liberals are now negotiating for a couple of months with Labour again for a new administration.

The current minister is lame, as he must just 'watch the store'.
It looks to some commenters like a last eruption of a minister hostaged by xenophobe populistic Wilders and his call for 'safety' anti immigration, and zero tolerance approach.

It's unlikely the proposel will ever happen if you ask me, as trend is more leftie.
No reason for panic at least, for the time being.
Yet a reason to stay vigilant, as usual.
Protests come from all sides already.