careful or Ted will rub some of his animal musk on you...
...then shoot you with his bow and arrow...
oooh! he's positively uncivilized, yuck!
once again, hubird successfully turns a conversation(or monologue) that he doesn't want into something else, even though he doesn't have to participate. i mean, if Nestor is really out there, why is there a need to shut him down? time will tell, there's no harm done in the talking, even if it is paranoia. if it isn't paranoia, then you can say, "wow! this is the stuff that Nestor was so concerned about!". you can say, "i don't think that's very possible", "you're getting worked up over nothing" or whatever and state your points, and i think that's fine. there's no reason to belittle him when we still have to wait for the outcome. saying "he belittled the people who don't believe him first!", is just being a big baby. i had to beat my kids when they brought up that crap(he started it!) to try to cover up the bad thing they did. everyone got punished when that happened. why get everyone punished?
i don't think it's always a bad thing to commit violence or to mock someone publicly, it's wrong to do that in stopping someone from speaking their opinion, if that opinion's purpose isn't harming others, especially in a spot created simply for expressing opinions.
I actually bought a hormone extrat he labelled " Deer Pussy " as it's a female Deer Hormone, and this stuff was nasty, but very effective.
He was so successful as he knew Now, ACLU/NOW/Pink and many "humane un-biased " organizations would attack him making the product fly off of the shelves.
Makes me wonder when Clinton lied after destroying Monica Lewinskys name, and getting a blow job and finger banging w/ a Cigar and not a single NOW or other group of women with Mens haircuts released a statement shows their credibilty.
Andrew Dice Clay ( that nasty bastard ) bashes women so bad that NOW and Pink march around with their Anne Murray Clones and signs and simply help him sell out here 3 nights a week. Got to admit that Madonna and Nugent mastered this negative marketing w/ positice results long before Spears, Hilton and GaGa....
@ Garyb.
A 40+ year old administrator with strong but controversial views, pushing it through our throats in a Messiah like style which calls quite some opposition, and who's not able to listen to or understand the criticizing from several sides, well that would be more than enough to hire Ted Nudgent as hitman.
Or to satirize him.
I prefer watching him perform, but lately he uses the stage like a Hollywood moron by talking about politics.
I won't pay to see him again, as I went to hear the Amboiy Dukes, PaPas Will, Shotgun Fever, etc.
He has become the equivalent of a blathering Madonna.
gold price rising is quite logical in times of financial crisis...if money inflates gold price gets up of course.
To say that rising gold price is predicting the total collapse is wishful thinking.
garyb wrote:the rise in gold prices just shows the loss of value of the money
That's it, that's what I mean too.
Hint: It is curious to see that China has bought the biggest amount of gold in their history. They’ve amassed a ridiculous amount of gold through the past 6 months or so.
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garyb wrote:the rise in gold prices just shows the loss of value of the money.
hubird, i like the humor.
Thank you, much appreciated.
Couldn't laugh tho.
Saying 'hey see, now the price of gold even goes up, that makes the crisis even worse, wait, the collaps is even coming now' that is counting double, isn't it?
We new already that there's a crisis.
Average money and gold are communicating vessels, one doesn't make the other worse.
That's what I meant...
edit: never mind, just wanted to point that out.
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yes, well actually, gold is something physical. it's value is in it's usefullness, limited supply and the effort it takes to get it into a useable form. money is imaginary. the cost of printing is not the value. gold, food, water, these things are relative constants. their value remains more or less the same, within a small range compared to other real things. it's the money that has a wildly elastic value.
when the money is based on something real, like gold or other metals, then the value of the money is pretty much constant. money in the current world, however, has a value that is not fixed to anything real. it's fixed to the relative strenth and power of the issuer, a slippery value.
Well, this fact you explain about gold Gary it is what makes possible for paper money (a mere representation of a value), to vanish so easily…, as the system can remove its value from the hands of people without them realizing it, slowly, while people are still having this representations into their hands... That is the trick of our banking system.
That’s why you suddenly find yourself with a startling bunch of papers in your hand in certain countries, with no more value than their real material: “paper”. I once paid for a meal for two in Rumania, being with my wife, and I felt like a millionaire doing it because I had to pay with an enormous wad of paper money, it was ridiculous. That amount, in dollars, would have amounted to a home studio full of gear. I couldn’t help laugh and imagine how many of those wads you would need to buy a car over there… wow! Their money is so devaluated, it is worth nothing!
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Regarding the Chile vs Romania story, things have turned around now
Romania went through a currency reform in 2005, effectively the new currency was 10,000 "more worth" then the former currency...
So now, everytime a romanian guy goes to chile and buys a nice dinner for two for 100 Romanian money, he has the same thought you had earlier when he puts 13500 Chilean Pesos on the table
Sorry for off topic.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
no, it's just logical within the borders of the democratic-capitalistic world we - ultimately-wanne live in.
Globalism of Capital is ahead of national thinking in politics, it will take a few generations to get that better in shape, and doubtlessly some military action of significance in between.
No need to suggest Dark Forces somewhere behind the curtains tho.
I know what happened in Argentina first hand. I was a teenager and it was absolutely horrific I can tell you. How could you forget something like that? Honestly, nobody knows how hard this situation was but those who were there! I saw my poor father fall into his knees crying in the floor out of pain, we fell in bankrupt all of a sudden, after so many years of great economic success; we lost everything in the blink of an eye, being until then in a privileged situation.
I remember a small shop, a small grocery in front of my house crossing the street… the poor owner was in shock and his wife and children were crying too, the merchandise he bought and sold skyrocketed its price from one day to the other, I mean, several zeros were added in one day…, so he could no longer replace any merchandise and had to close the shop. And this was the story of thousands of little shops that disappeared; it was a time of desperation for many middle class people. The middle class was from then and on destroyed in Argentina. Most of my friends, most people I knew had a pretty cool standard of life in those days, I am not talking about having a luxurious life, but we all had more than enough in our families, a car, a good home, plenty of things, great high quality, cheap and abundant food, etc. What we call the middle class in Argentina today it is in fact a middle “low” class rather to say, the real middle class disappeared.
This was done, again, by the banking system of the criminals which are in power, the Zionists behind the stock market. What they made in Argentina was also the trial of a model, which they then implemented in many countries around the glove, raping people’s goods, for good.
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We talk of war being the most destructive force. We have the UN in an attempt to regulate disputes. It's not as powerful as we all would wish for, but it has proven its worth on occasion, and I think it has created a positive difference. The struggle for resources, and energy trading, is something pretty new to us - we have to be careful with that one yet!
There's little doubt that financial explosions, such as what happened to you Nestor in Argentina, and to those in many other countries right up to today, causes hardship akin to warzones, and takes about as long from which to recover. The political classes are compliant in such explosions - and maybe sometimes they seem to be the bankers puppets. One of the main causes, it seems to me, is that the banking and investment sectors, where the item traded is intangible, multiples just take longer to write down (pun intended), where success is real profit and real loss, and the quick insider holds the cards, are all self-regulated practices, and by nature, us humans do not respond well to self-regulation.
I understand that it was Roosevelt that imposed banking restrictions after the Great Depression in the US - the bankers complained that it stifled free markets, but it was a brick, if not the foundation, that allowed America to build upon to eventually become the superpower that it was and is. We in Ireland had what proved to be a completely ineffective office (since dissolved) invented during the infamous Celtic Tiger called the Financial Regulator. There are many more examples in Europe alone, in Finland some years ago, in Iceland more recently, and in Mediterranean states currently in the Eurozone, not least ourselves in Ireland (pure bad bank practices driven by the blindness of market speculation).
Does it not seem that recently-invented investment products - futures, spread-bets, hedges, and the like - provide a formula within the framework whereby some can profit from other's loss? Surely that's a recipe for disaster, and for me has no analogy in the trading of the old reliables of goods and services.
The IMF/World Bank, were they set up to regulate financial disputes? To be the denizen of financial peace and rectitude? Surely not, because the problem is getting more profound!
It's obvious that this level of attack on national security is now the new kid on the block, and we need both a chair and a whip to tame that lion (pun again intended). This for me is the threat.
hubird wrote:no, it's just logical within the borders of the democratic-capitalistic world we - ultimately-wanne live in.
Globalism of Capital is ahead of national thinking in politics, it will take a few generations to get that better in shape, and doubtlessly some military action of significance in between.
No need to suggest Dark Forces somewhere behind the curtains tho.
global capital controls who does well and who does not. how could there be anything but dark forces? how is that not a "conspiracy" as in "con"=together added to "piracy". it won't get better because it's just the same jokers that have been running things all along. their game is always the same. these guys are not elected, ever. the heads of the money machines are NEVER elected and they have NOTHING to do with democracy.
i don't unltimately want that world. thanks. i'd rather have a world that respects humans and expects more from them than just tittilation of base desires, not that i'm against base desires...
yea, it was before that... they remouved don't know, maybe something like that "10000000000", and started all over again with "1" 
