MuTools MuLabs didn't really work out for me

[kensuguro]

I gave MuLabs a quick spin to see if it was usable. MuLabs is a sequencer from MuTools that also has a built in modular synth platform. Sounds interesting right?

2 minutes into building my first patch, I found some significant problems. I got an oscilator going. MIDI to ADSR worked fine. But going from ADSR to a 24db lowpass was where it broke. ADSR creates an output of type "modulation", and the values at each ADSR can be controlled 0-100%. But the lowpass accepts an input of type "event". To me, that's already kind of broken. But anyway, there's a "control param" module that takes in modulation and outputs events. Sort of a converter. This module is sort of convenient in that the param and unit changes according to the output, in this case, hz. (it's like a param knob)

But now the problem is that the ADSR can only modulate what is set in the "control param" by -100% to 100%. So if the filter is set at 220hz, and the "control param" is set at 200, you can use the ADSR to modulate up or down 200hz, range of 400hz... which is quite an odd setup. I mean, you can accomplish the task of modulating the cutoff, but in quite an unconventional way.. I guess if I understand "control param" as "range", and only use the ADSR to go from 0-100% then it'll be more normal..

I'm not sure if I'm going about this in a totally insane way, but it just seems strange that just a OSC>EG>Filter causes such complexity. So anyway, I'm dropping it for now. I mean, did they not figure the first thing anyone's going to do is create a 1OSC, 1EG, VCF, VCA synth?

I might revisit just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding this.. maybe look at some example patches. If it works, then this could be very cool.

Can any of you guys figure it out?
http://www.mutools.com/mulab-product.html

[dawman]

Why does everyone try and do what Nord and Scope have developed over 13+ years thinking they have a new and better way of doing things...?
SHitWig was suppose to be something similar I believe, and some guys claim to be MasterBETA testing it, but that seems troubled as well.

But you must admit it's a great business to get into.
You can sell incomplete wrok and make people pay for chasing around Microsoft and added features for years, after using numbers 1-20, they could go back to letters, then a decade later use hexidecimal versions as updates, and just sell the hell out of a never finsished product.
it's Brilliant.

[kensuguro]

hm, so MuTools guys told me there is a modulation input on the filter module. Guess it's back to to the app tonight. Could have sworn it was just the event input..