The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[hubird]

There is a proverb that says: “there is not worse dreamer than the one that does not want to wake up”.

so this means you belong to the enlighted ones and I and others who interprete political and socio-cultural developments differently are sleaping dummies?

The arrogance, after all the memorable conversations.
Obviously not able to pick up 'the deep thoughts' which you say you were looking for, eh?

Just started to check the news, fallen for tendential blogs and shit, and then already talking everyone down to unknowing stupids.

Ah, when do the sheep come? you forget about the sheep!

In 1972 I was one of the demonstants against the newly consolidated dictatorship of Pinochet.
One would almost regret that action, haha.

[garyb]

no, it means that if you are asleep, and refuse to wake, that there's no talking to you.

but it's not a personal you. the pronoun "you" can be replaced with the word "one".

the arrogance is when someone decides that the proverb is aimed at him who knows that he's not in error and so decides that the proverb is bad.

what Nestor was speaking about was assholes who deny the existance of Eugenics and sterilization when it's right in front of their noses. what's arrogant is deciding which humans are worthless before they're even conceived. what's arrogant is claiming to know what is best for the earth and humanity without even fully understanding one's own place in the universe. just pointing at Eugenics and then saying that it's real and those who don't think it can possibly be real are asleep is just factual, not arrogance. it might not be worth getting worked up about in this day and age, or it might be, but it's no reason to hate the person talking about it, or to feel defensive, unless you're the kind of twat who supports racial purity laws or are working to implement a "Minority Report"/"Gattica" type world.

of course this is all off topic, but it's the same with the Iran war specualtion. one may agree or disagree with Nestor's fears, but it's no reason to be hostile in any case.

[next to nothing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sUeGC-8dyk

[Nestor]

The conflict is escalating rapidly now into definite plans for an attack:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-0 ... nears.html

Here is the resolution:

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/MDM12140.pdf

[Nestor]

A bad breaking news, strategies are closing into each other:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/229494.html

[next to nothing]

Please elaborate.

[Nestor]

For me, it means that the conflict is being taken farther by forcing the market to collapse, so there is a justification to go on with the plans the powerful ones of this world have.

There is an interesting view of this happening here that tells a different story:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/explosio ... iya_032012

[Nestor]

Here we have yet another disgusting evidence that Monsanto and eugenics are a crude reality and that they work together:

http://www.naturalnews.com/035135_Round ... erone.html

[hubird]

Of course, fascistic Obama will be said to lie, by the selective reading posse, but there's some good news.
Or doesn't this fit to the Doom Professor's wish to be found to be in the right:

http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/c.jsp; ... cid=578815

[garyb]

i guess that's a good thing.

by the way, Mussolini, the guy who coined the word "fascism", said "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power". in this sense, Obama is one of the biggest fascist tools of all time. your sarcasm is wasted. it has become only rhetoric and use of loaded words.

[next to nothing]

Not only that, but he is also black, so he must be the first rapper to ever become US President.

[garyb]

you'd think so, but the first rapper president was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. his ethnicity is often challenged, but he had light skin, like the Greatest Rapper Ever, Vanilla Ice.

[hubird]

by the way, Mussolini, the guy who coined the word "fascism", said "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power". in this sense, Obama is one of the biggest fascist tools of all time. your sarcasm is wasted. it has become only rhetoric and use of loaded words.

Well, if you use the word fascism this way you devaluate it to an innocent level.
All social- and Christen-democratic leaders in Europe or elsewhere would be fascists then.

That's your trick: you use a historically heavy loaded word to blackmail your (quite nice operating) president, and if asked for reasons for that tremendous accusation you say nah, it's just a logic consequence of a simple definition.

I'm not completely sure if you do, but calling Obama a fascist would be a dumb nitwit remark any well educated person unworthy.

Do you realise what that accusation really (really) means?

Fascism does not mean wanting a social welfare or health insurance system, or wanting a strong gouvernment in a democraticly controlled political system.
Those things are normal political choices, so far supported by more than half of the citizens of your own country.

Please Garyb, keep the F word for the real stuff, or you just devaluate the word in a way we'd just need another word for the terrible things it implements.

[Nestor]

Some more wood to the big fire:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/147953554800 ... hanistan-/

[next to nothing]

you'd think so, but the first rapper president was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. his ethnicity is often challenged, but he had light skin, like the Greatest Rapper Ever, Vanilla Ice.

I think Mr.Vanilla stole the limelight from this incredibly skilled rapper...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... JSZ1TwjcsQ

[garyb]

yes, you're right....

[dawman]

[/quote] Calling Obama a fascist would be a dumb nitwit remark any well educated person unworthy.[/quote]

You obviously let your schooling get in the way of your education.
Obama is a facist, and personally I think it's OK. Im retired AFL-CIO now as I had earned the credits, so when the jobs went abroad on 2009 I decided to cash it in.
Thanks to Obama and the AFL-CIO & the Wall Street firm that gives us 13 checks a year, 2 during the Holiday months, I am a happy camper.
So corporatism or facism, doesn;t matter to me what you want to call it, but I am not disillusioned into believing that Obama is the voice of the people. His recent NDAA, and HR347 make sure that protests can no longer be held on Federal Land. MLK would have been in jail under Obamas new slough of regulations and laws. Now the military can be used within our borders for arresting these evil criminals. They should go to Wall Street, but most folks know this is the version of our Capital and its politicians, only it is located in NYC.
I enjoy the fact that Obama is a corporatist, big banks, big corporations, big Government, big military..
Your Kings & Queens gave him a Nobel Peace Prize prior to his deployments in Libya, Somalia, the Congo, Uganda, Thailand......and I am sure the B2's being staioned in Diego Garcia now is what a man of Peace does..... Hey maybe the Pope will give him a medallion. These European Honors and Medals are incredibly hypocritical, but what do you expect from Royalty and Kingdoms acting in concert with each other.

I like Obama, becasue our money from the AFL-CIO membership dues and Organizational deductions guaranteed we wouldn't be a part of his peasants Health Care Plan, and the evil CEOs that he keeps on as donors ensures our Pension Funds on Wall Street are flourishing. It's just the way things are.

But keep reading the Op Eds in American bought and paid for media outlets. They're not even published, so they can say whatever they want. If you really want the truth, read PUBLISHED documents, they are held laible and can be sued for their falshoods, this is why the Internet is a perfect place to get your (dis)information out. Too bad so many Sheep buy into it.

[garyb]

by the way, Mussolini, the guy who coined the word "fascism", said "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power". in this sense, Obama is one of the biggest fascist tools of all time. your sarcasm is wasted. it has become only rhetoric and use of loaded words.

Well, if you use the word fascism this way you devaluate it to an innocent level.
All social- and Christen-democratic leaders in Europe or elsewhere would be fascists then.

That's your trick: you use a historically heavy loaded word to blackmail your (quite nice operating) president, and if asked for reasons for that tremendous accusation you say nah, it's just a logic consequence of a simple definition.

I'm not completely sure if you do, but calling Obama a fascist would be a dumb nitwit remark any well educated person unworthy.

Do you realise what that accusation really (really) means?

Fascism does not mean wanting a social welfare or health insurance system, or wanting a strong gouvernment in a democraticly controlled political system.
Those things are normal political choices, so far supported by more than half of the citizens of your own country.

Please Garyb, keep the F word for the real stuff, or you just devaluate the word in a way we'd just need another word for the terrible things it implements.

oh, you mean that Mussolini didin't know what he was talking about? he did coin the word. it's not my opinion. actually, it's the true FACTUAL definition.

just because you don't like admitting that the world is run by a bunch of fascists....

[Nestor]

This brainess warmonger says he wants to "PROTECT" civilians in Syria... yeah... sure:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ ... gle+Reader

All this warmongers want to protect people just like they have already protected them in Libya:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=26997

In the meantime, Netanyahu says: “My supreme responsibility as prime minister of Israel is to ensure that Israel remains the master of its fate”. Well, that means that things are exactly as they were yesterday, and getting worse tomorrow:

http://freebeacon.com/netanyahu-to-obam ... to-strike/

[next to nothing]

Nestor, I would love to hear your take on Libya. If you start with the protests over there (yes lets just say they happened, allthoug i wouldnt be suprised if they were "false flag" as well in your perception), should the international community involve themselves? If the answer is "yes but (insert anything)", what constillation do you have in mind?

PS: The Monsanto/eugenics article was about poison in the herbicide, not the seed/plant. If it was eugenics i wouldn't kill the farmers, rather the customers.

PPS: The CIA agents in Aghanistan video is from 2010, I am not sure what is "wood to the fire" concerning that.

PPPS: Has the Zionists taken over the world yet after blowing up that pipeline? Has the oil prices gone thrugh the roof?

PPPPS: Whats the most conerning issues regarding Chile at the moment?