UA Apollo

[dante]

So.After reading up on this whole scope 6-Parseq thing i am still not sure why the world needs another sequencer.

The main Reason I can see for ParseQ's existence is simply automation and control (of Scope devices/synths). XTC mode is a work-around, too unwieldy to manage all of Scope synth (or device) parameters and thier automation, either for programmers or users.

I know there are some that use XTC succesfully, but that doesnt exclude a new, better solution. Like Julian said - something like - 'a sequencer that knows whats happening in the Scope layer' and that could potentially yield benefits we cannot image right now. Like a control protocol not limited by 128 discreet values (the MIDI system) - just to start the ball rolling.

Forget ASIO latency, Silentway patching, the limitations of 8 bit MIDI streams and buggy XTC synths. A DAW with analog like control over FAT onboard synths that beat thin VST's in to a pulp and behave like real analog gear live is a comin ... ! Ay...men !

[Sounddesigner]

There are people out there who want REALtime capability within a Native DAW and they don't like using two apps to get it, thus Parseq is just what the doctor ordered for them. There are some who've been looking for a good alternative to Protools HD and the more Parseq grows the more people it can attract to SCOPE. I think SCOPE being more customizable in regards to work-enviroment for more peoples workflow by adding its own DAW to go with SFP mode and XTC mode is a good thing and what SCOPE is all about.

Julian has given a little info on Parseq. Parseq is going to have the routing ability of SCOPE within the DAW with the possibility of using a patch cable window in it as well as all driver modules (asio, wave, etc) accessability within it to route to (don't know about all the midi routing but i don't see why not). It will start out with a piano roll but step-sequencer for drums is planned as well as possibly more exotic sequencers (bouncing ball sequencers or a tone matrix, etc) . There will be a way for others who wish to develope for Parseq to insert their own sequencers and other functionality in Parseq (we have right now SCOPE developers who build Mixers and step-sequencers so i expect Parseq to grow pretty fast in many ways. I'd happily pay someone to build me a step-sequencer like i want it). Being Parseq is open to other developers it should grow fairly quickly in many ways. Because Parseq is'nt as full featured as many may want due to being young it will also be made to work with other DAW's as a vst and rewire is planned. Native and SCOPE plugins can be combined, obviously Native will bring latency but there's Delay-compensation and delay-compensation can be turned off when tracking (hopefully for individual tracks and not just all tracks). SCOPE Plugins will be REALtime like SFP Mode.

If Julian get enough of the basics i'll be happy with Parseq as another option for me when it's released. I'm content now but more flexibility is welcomed. SCOPE is becoming more flexible and workflow-friendly to more people and that is a good thing. No other platform has anywhere near the work-enviroment possibilities of open-scope/parseq/scope 6.


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[Sounddesigner]

It was also stated by Julian that fixing the known issues with SCOPE's drivers are a top priority for Sonic Core. So they are fixing bugs. Be patient with them, they're doing their best to make SCOPE as Advanced as they can. They are VERY ambitious and want true alien-technology thus it takes time to fullfill all that they are trying to accomplish. Open-SCOPE has impressed me with the little i know of it and told me they are trying VERY hard.


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[Fluxpod]

i NEVER go through the machinations that you do.

i don't need anpther sequencer either, but i'm not against one that's native to the dsps.
i actually like cubase myself, but i'm not against something that works better.

dsp allocation can stay as it is, and an XITE works just fine automatically. if you want to use it at it's bleeding edge, then go ahead. improvements are welcome, however. this is my opinion and many others as well. i'm amazed at what people think a box should do, but hey, i'm not against that either. even with it's limits it still performs at a level that only $150,000 can match.

you will get bugfixes, parseq has nothing to do with bugfixes as it's a product of Audio Buiscut not S|C.

Thanks gary i completly missed that Parseq is from another company
And i agree with the dsp loading but its the one thing that puzzles people when i talk about the xite.
Guess i just sit back and see how this turns out.

[Fluxpod]

It was also stated by Julian that fixing the known issues with SCOPE's drivers are a top priority for Sonic Core. So they are fixing bugs. Be patient with them, they're doing their best to make SCOPE as Advanced as they can. They are VERY ambitious and want true alien-technology thus it takes time to fullfill all that they are trying to accomplish. Open-SCOPE has impressed me with the little i know of it and told me they are trying VERY hard.


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Thats good to hear!

[dawman]

I hope the fine looking Lass I saw from SC at NAMM is used int the office as a source of inspiration.
I personally would work overtime for free to make up for the excessive German Holidays, well as long as she had a role there...
Nadia is as cute as a button too, SC booth babes were technically advanced and smoked the half naked dirtbags that infested most Guitar booths...

[siriusbliss]

I hope the fine looking Lass I saw from SC at NAMM is used int the office as a source of inspiration.
I personally would work overtime for free to make up for the excessive German Holidays, well as long as she had a role there...
Nadia is as cute as a button too, SC booth babes were technically advanced and smoked the half naked dirtbags that infested most Guitar booths...

Yes, the lovely SC ladies are great.
I really appreciate having them at the booth.

Cinja has an awesome voice. Hope she gets some real recognition in Hollywood soon (but very low probability of this happening while hanging out at NAMM )

Meanwhile.... on into the future!

Greg

[JoPo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6p2DQ5S3E

(But only in french...)

[siriusbliss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6p2DQ5S3E

(But only in french...)

This is the same guy that did ALL the demos using the SAME song, over and over again many times a day at NAMM.
Nice simple demo, but otherwise kind of boring.

G

[JoPo]

He's the marketing guy ! I didn't watch it untill the end.
He seems to dicover a gear with which he can record thru plugins and low latency !..

[siriusbliss]

He's the marketing guy ! I didn't watch it untill the end.
He seems to dicover a gear with which he can record thru plugins and low latency !..

Yeah, recording through DSP plugins in real-time - what a concept
(We Scope people have been doing it since 1998)

Greg

[dante]

[sunmachine]

He's the marketing guy ! I didn't watch it untill the end.
He seems to dicover a gear with which he can record thru plugins and low latency !..

Yeah, recording through DSP plugins in real-time - what a concept
(We Scope people have been doing it since 1998)

Greg

The problem is that most people aren't aware of SCOPE.
So please spread the word and comment on those videos!

I did this last week here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXBtqO5g7pQ
Feel free to add more!

[dante]

He's the marketing guy ! I didn't watch it untill the end.
He seems to dicover a gear with which he can record thru plugins and low latency !..

Yeah, recording through DSP plugins in real-time - what a concept
(We Scope people have been doing it since 1998)

Greg

A good example is Dynatube. Plug your guitar in and jam or record live in your bedroom with the sound of a Marshall. Just like hardware.

[YISH313z]

I have to admit, the Apollo mixer is sexy. but...

...wait til Open Scope is released.

Things will heat up then!

[phobik]

I have to admit, the Apollo mixer is sexy. but...

...wait til Open Scope is released.

Things will heat up then!

Yeah.

[xtrust]

We all know the high quality and potencial of this system.
The actual problem is the direct competition, in same range price, with much more famous and aggressive brands.
In such a crowed market, it might sound insane to compete without a proper marketing strategy (which is, by the way, very expensive..)
I think it would be more successful in live music market, where this product presents such an incredible range of possibilities
normally offered by much more expensive systems.
Let's imagine a simple laptop, a xite-1 connected via madi (obviously if s/c will provide a format converter)
to a 2 ad/da Ferrofish on a stage up to 2 kms away!! managing both main mixer and stage mixer at the same time...and
maybe, in a next future, the possibility to chain 2 xlite together for a totaly of 64 channels....it would be terrific.

[dante]

I think S|C are aware of Scopes 'live' potential, example the reference here to a Public Address application:

http://sonic-core.net/joomla.soniccore/ ... =1&lang=us

But a little more publicity in this area wouldn't hurt, even before the advent of Open Scope.

[dawman]

Does Open Scope mean we can have really cool graphics where we can have Tape Decks with Reels spinning to make us feel like we have real Tape Saturation....?
How about Velocity controlled Tube lights, where values above 64 get brighter and we can adjust the curves for better control of the Tubes lighting up...?

I need something as I am bored with this XITE-1.
Everynight the same thing, it never crashes always sounds good, doesn't have any load times........
Why won't it crash so I can tweak around for days trying to be all scientific and shit.

I want to play with plug ins all of the time and never perform, these guys on GS and Cockos are having all of the fun talking scientific stuff, and free plug ins too.
That's it...........I'm selling this stable, uncrashable, expensive, great sounding workhorse.
Then I can go on the forums and become scientific too and nullify my synths by plugging the audio out into the inputs, and if there's no sound it means it nullifies and therfore is perfect......

I use to record music on an Otari Tape deck w/ a QX-1 all of the time, now I can just play with plug ins and try to figure out why shit never works...


Oh, and I do think the Apollo is a great move by UAD. Should have waited for LightPeak though as the copper wire THunderbolt will be another MLan IMHO.

[siriusbliss]

Does Open Scope mean we can have really cool graphics where we can have Tape Decks with Reels spinning to make us feel like we have real Tape Saturation....?
How about Velocity controlled Tube lights, where values above 64 get brighter and we can adjust the curves for better control of the Tubes lighting up...?

I need something as I am bored with this XITE-1.
Everynight the same thing, it never crashes always sounds good, doesn't have any load times........
Why won't it crash so I can tweak around for days trying to be all scientific and shit.

I want to play with plug ins all of the time and never perform, these guys on GS and Cockos are having all of the fun talking scientific stuff, and free plug ins too.
That's it...........I'm selling this stable, uncrashable, expensive, great sounding workhorse.
Then I can go on the forums and become scientific too and nullify my synths by plugging the audio out into the inputs, and if there's no sound it means it nullifies and therfore is perfect......

I use to record music on an Otari Tape deck w/ a QX-1 all of the time, now I can just play with plug ins and try to figure out why shit never works...


Oh, and I do think the Apollo is a great move by UAD. Should have waited for LightPeak though as the copper wire THunderbolt will be another MLan IMHO.

Hehe... yeah, I laughed when I saw the tape reels on Apollo running at NAMM. Great stuff.
I agree - good move by UA, but yes, they should've waited for Lightpeak, since they're going to be overcharging for the big bloated overdesigned Thunderbolt /PCIe PCB anyways. (I'm serious, they are).

Meanwhile I spent the weekend capturing old 4-track tape recordings off my old, refurbished Teach 3340 straight into Xite, and the whole time was thinking to myself - wow, how far we've come! Can't wait to see what even the next 3 years brings!

Greg