The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[Nestor]

Interesting thoughts about the situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HfPez2Zuuo#!


What Ahmadineja said recently

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9W6fGkU ... creen&NR=1

[garyb]

Nestor, it doesn't matter what the actors say. the folks that make things happen will do what they want in any case, even if it involves murder of women and children. they always have, and as long as they run the show, they always will. all those reports that have you concerned are just more random acts of violence.

[Nestor]

Nestor, it doesn't matter what the actors say. the folks that make things happen will do what they want in any case, even if it involves murder of women and children. they always have, and as long as they run the show, they always will. all those reports that have you concerned are just more random acts of violence.

Despite the fact that I agree with you “random acts of violence” as you say, you should not interpret what I post in a too fixed way. I am not saying that these links are telling us the truth about the situation, of course not, at least, never the whole thing. They say: “Interesting thoughts about the situation”, and “What Ahmadineja said recently”, all you can deduce for sure from me is that I found the first link “interesting” and the last “recent.” I am the first not to believe what the news says, but about what they say, you can also know many true things by deduction, this is undeniable. When somebody lies about something and you discover it, you can know what they are covering behind, that’s the idea. Then, news have always a certain amount of reality.

This one is, by the way, a pretty objective reality in the news:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 56461.html

[garyb]

i hears ya Nestor.

[Nestor]

i hears ya Nestor.

We both do brother

[Nestor]

Things are getting worst by the minute, this is not a joke guys. Big powers are moving around and positioning themselves for a big fight as strategic country gatherings are coming to take place everywhere in the globe. The world is dividing itself into two enormous forces, and the little ones are being forced to decide at which side to play the game of war. This is the real world in which we are living today. By the hands of a few extremely powerfull ones, we are all in trouble now.

This is the real world, this is us: "By the hands of a few extremely powerful ones, we will all fall, again, to play the game we most detest, the game of war"

[hubird]

(yawn)

[next to nothing]

What are these "Two enormous forces" you speak of?

Strategic gatherings isn't anything new. War for resources, territory, religion and power has been around since the dawn of man, and they will never end. That's how it's always been.

[dawman]

Yeah, and besides being a soldier is great.
You get to travel to far away exotic lands, meet new people,...... then kill them...
Personally there aren't that many people worth shooting over here anymore...

Just joshing.
Hope you don't let this stuff bother your sleep patterns too much.
On the other hand composition of new musical territories like Death Jazz might evolve and become the new rage.
Braincell would be a great keyboardist for that...
I envision Acid Rain clouds and planes letting loose of Chem Trails where heavy disonance is involved.

[siriusbliss]

War is an unfortunate distraction from our everyday concerns.

For those tracking ACTA, SOPA, Monsanto taking over control of our food supply, chemtrails, etc. - these are concerns closer to home.

And besides, one big solar storm crashing through the ionosphere and hitting Terra Firma would make all this war nonsense a moot prospect anyways.


G

[Nestor]

What are these "Two enormous forces" you speak of?

Strategic gatherings isn't anything new. War for resources, territory, religion and power has been around since the dawn of man, and they will never end. That's how it's always been.

Those who are getting with Iran i.e., Russia and China among others, are forming the first big gathering, and those who are with Israel i.e., USA, England, etc., are the second one.

True, we all know that, strategic gatherings are not anything new, but “these” particular kind of gatherings you can bet do not take place every day, this is an unusual situation.

[siriusbliss]

What are these "Two enormous forces" you speak of?

Strategic gatherings isn't anything new. War for resources, territory, religion and power has been around since the dawn of man, and they will never end. That's how it's always been.

Those who are getting with Iran i.e., Russia and China among others, are forming the first big gathering, and those who are with Israel i.e., USA, England, etc., are the second one.

True, we all know that, strategic gatherings are not anything new, but “these” particular kind of gatherings you can bet do not take place every day, this is an unusual situation.

Yes, it seems particularly accelerated, expanded, and pronounced.

Hundreds of thousands of troops amassed for what? Is it more than oil, resources, territory, religion, or just we all puppets of the puppetmasters pushing for population control?

As real as it is, it's also a wholesale fabrication of elitists that own the oligarchs and charlatans.

I will continue to focus on peace, truth, justice, etc.

Greg

[Nestor]

As real as it is, it's also a wholesale fabrication of elitists that own the oligarchs and charlatans. I will continue to focus on peace, truth, justice, etc. Greg

I feel identified with your thoughts Greg, this is what I have done for such a long time now: concentrate in living my life and it was good that way, enjoying humanity, friendship, music, etc., but it seems to me that what is happening nowadays it’s not “only” a psychological strategy for the sake of some interests, like it has always been. Every time they have built a story to make us believe something for their behalf, they have spend little resources to build the thing, just a few tricks and troops here and there, more noise than facts. This is not what is happening, these are facts! I see large armies getting ready for something big: China is preparing their troops, what for? Russia is moving missiles and troops with mass arsenals to their borders. Then USA is moving 100.000 soldiers close to Iran. Is that just for the sake of spending millions of dollars, just now that we are beginning a huge world economic recession to impress us with some psychological tactics? They could do it through some newspapers a few soldiers and some blabla in your preferred TV channel like always, but this is not the case. I do not believe it.

[siriusbliss]

As real as it is, it's also a wholesale fabrication of elitists that own the oligarchs and charlatans. I will continue to focus on peace, truth, justice, etc. Greg

I feel identified with your thoughts Greg, this is what I have done for such a long time now: concentrate in living my life and it was good that way, enjoying humanity, friendship, music, etc., but it seems to me that what is happening nowadays it’s not “only” a psychological strategy for the sake of some interests, like it has always been. Every time they have built a story to make us believe something for their behalf, they have spend little resources to build the thing, just a few tricks and troops here and there, more noise than facts. This is not what is happening, these are facts! I see large armies getting ready for something big: China is preparing their troops, what for? Russia is moving missiles and troops with mass arsenals to their borders. Then USA is moving 100.000 soldiers close to Iran. Is that just for the sake of spending millions of dollars, just now that we are beginning a huge world economic recession to impress us with some psychological tactics? They could do it through some newspapers a few soldiers and some blabla in your preferred TV channel like always, but this is not the case. I do not believe it.

The other excuse for war IS the (mostly manufactured) economic turmoil - manipulation of currencies - since war effectively justifies printing more money out of thin-air, creating ever-more debt (to who?), and 'validates' culling-of-the-herd, since our human ontology is largely structured on either avoiding looking bad, or just WINNING. The global psyche responds by fighting for the spoils of war, since we lead to believe that there is scarcity everywhere in the world (which there is) - which is also based on our lack of sustainable living.

ALL of which is avoidable when enough people wake up.
I STILL think there will soon be a critical shift in human psyche, condition, ontology... where we'll suddenly leave the past millenia behind and just move on.

Greg

[garyb]

those two sides are the same side.

[siriusbliss]

those two sides are the same side.

Correct.

****

[Nestor]

Greg, I too am sure all this will pass, as everything must pass and go away in life, but first these people will get onto each other’s nerves.

They sure are Gary, just like USA candidates are, but WE ARE NOT in either of their sides, we don’t want a war, and we don’t want to be multimillionaires at the price of smashing people.

This is our concern, to get ready for all the changes that are coming through, so we can pass through them in the best possible way. Due to the amount of countries involved in this crazy run, the conflict will last many years I think until it calms down by itself. When all this madness is gone and hatred has expressed itself enough to get tired and disgusted of itself, the goodwill changes we hope for will take place hopefully, and for sure it’s going to be another world…

[Nestor]

Pakistan has just joined Iran stating that they will defend Iran under any attack. Pakistan has around 100 nukes already. Iran, in the other hand, has vowed to attack any country serving as a platform to attack them.

Add to this that England is asking for military intervention in Syria so to stop the slaughter, this is yet another important hot spot of war, UN will very probably be entering to the conflict.

Guys, those of you with large debts, do anything to pay them right away, the sooner the better, and get out of the danger of having to pay tens or hundreds of times its price because of inflation, get out of this trap. Don’t get into long term investments either, about 3 months could be already too much. Turn your money into something that will last even if the crisis gets big, or devaluation will let you naked as money will not worth more than the paper is made of. Experts in war and inversion agree that petrol barrels will skyrocket at least 30% at the first hit.

[dawman]

I wouldn't worry too much about the guys in Towels and Robes. They enjoy enslaving millions using Allah to guide them.
After what people saw in '91 the chances of these Freaks getting millions to die for Allah has diminished greatly.
Pakistan can quack all it wants. They also know the US allies like Turkey and India have large well trained militarys that would love to see them disappear.
This is the time for the Syrian and Iranian people to dislodge their royalty, and now that China and Russia have made the mistake of using their veto power, they are the new Satans that Allah will punish, well if they actually believe there;s a guy in the sky watching over them.
I am confident that NATO and other US Allies have plans in place that will support the young brave Arabs who are dying as we speak. Now that Russia and China were forced to vote, we are in a much better position to help opposition parties that will remove the great leaders in Towels and Robes.
Then Arabs will realize that Allah didn't really like them or speak to them through magical/telepathic means of communication. I actually think they figured that out already, that's why they want rational leaders, and more freedoms.

Pakistan forces will never fight against US forces. Their troops already witnessed the senseless slaughter of 100's of 1,000's of brainwashed Iraqi's in '91. So they know there's no big guy in the Sky watching over them, except for an AWACs and some B2 bombers.

[Nestor]

The world is no longer what it used to be. War forces are quite equaled in many ways so I would not assume anybody is going to be winning anything but rather losing everything. I am convinced that there is no right or wrong in this war, I would say everyone is wrong because its very foundation or reason is rotten. War long ago was, more and less, a linear detached business, but today it is a huge NET of tight interests, economics and politics, so if you pull or push one single string on this net, you will affect the entire thing, and the net is going to react against or in favor of your act.