tips for no to overheat the pci slot

[nunziata]

Hallo, i have purchased motherboard mb c2sbx-o lga 775. Now I would like know which video card is ideal for
not to overheat on the pci slot (sound card).
space is really small so you need something specific.
you have a suggestion?
risk of damaging the sound card if no change it
now the video card is asus svga ati pci 2 EAH5450 silent 1 gb ddr2 .
thanks

[nunziata]

Any video card that has the heatsink on the contrary, on the side of the above so that it does not hit with the sound card

[garyb]

dsps get damn hot.
unless the video card is on the pci card, it's probably ok as long as there's good air circulation in the case. it'd take a lot of heat to damage the dsp card.

[nunziata]

you know a video card that has the heatsink instead ?
yes video card is much near dsp no secure too

[astroman]

afaik there are NO videocards that have the heatsink on the other side.

you don't need such high performance cards for Scope.
It's NOT 3D and on 2D graphics it doesn't make any difference.

Get the 'slowest' card with the lowest clock available - or use onboard video.
(I never had problems with onboard video, but I don't have big sample libraries or VSTs... )
Sometimes there is a tool programm for the videocard that can clock it down, but it doesn't always make a difference.

cheers, Tom

[erminardi]

mount a fan near, lateral, to the 4 cards, or use something like Enermax Chakra Case http://www.affordablecomputer.co.nz/cat ... 20case.jpg
25cm of noiseless fan and never more hassles

[astroman]

look on his photos: the heatsink is almost touching the DSPs and there is no air movement possible.
Imho the only solution is to exchange the motherboard to version where the PCIe slots have some distance to the old PCI slots.

cheers, Tom

[spacef]

You need a sidefan to blow on both video and scope (on the pic, you see one of mine, at the bottom left)..
You can make a whole in your current case with various tools you find in general stores (I have stuff i can plug on a drill and that cuts circles in metal... aluminium is a very soft metal, you could use a drill and make small whole on the circunference, but it is dirty work (it leaves spikes, that can wound), eventhough i also did it this way on one of my case.

I have 1 or 2 millimeters between the heatsink (it is not a passive one, it is a vapor x) and no problems of heat since i use that system (no pci overflows due to heat, ever).

There are much better fans than the enermax (that are thermo regulated, that's why i like them). Best brands are "Be quiet" , "Silverarrow", "Thermaltake"... forget about noctua and most other big names, they are all outdated (at least in the cpu cooler / silence / efficiency area). Get on geek website to know what is the fan for you, because even in the same brand , they are all different in terms of performances.

[spacef]

Ah yes, very important, don't forget the dust filters !!!!!
(here they are not screwed, but "velcroed" - almost like levitation, i don't see what else could avoid vibrations) and with invisible tape to make a barrier between the case panel and the fan filter. Also tar paper to cut ibrations around the fans, but you don't necessarily need that unless you go nut about silent pc
(that's why i don't like big fans, there is no 25mm filters, and may be it has less directivity than smaller fans).

[spacef]

nunziata, You don't have a rear fan ? You would improve the heat inside the case with one, because your cpu cooler is pushing air toward the rear, but with nothing to pull this air flow out of the case, it mainly stays inside the case (more than 75%, due to the lack of directvity of most case fans).
When the case is well ventilated, heat goes out fast and does not accumulate inside the case, where it contributes to rise the temperature of every component.. cards, hard disks etc.
In your system, if i look at the picture, I do not see anything that takes the heat from all the pci cards out of the case... the cpu cooler is far from enough to deal with this.
I don't how much you can gain with a rear fan, but it can be between 5 and 15 degrees depending on how is the air flow inside the case. This lower ambient teperature inside the case, will help a lot in not getting everything to overheat (the most crucial is of course the hard drives..... your data !!).

With fans, you need a way to control their speed, if silence is important to you (and also because the best performance is not at the highest speed).
There are 4 ways to do this:
1/ your motherboard has an application to control fan speed (for the fans that can be connected on the motherboard)
2/ you use thermoregulated fans , that speed up when heat increases, good so you don't think about it.
3/ you buy a fan controller , which allows to make very precise speed tunings, or put everything at the minimal speed when you need it (some fan controllers allow to switch fans completely off...). If you go that way, you must absolutely avoid any fan controller with an alarm, because some fansdgo very slow, and the alarm will scream eventhough there is no heat problem, it is just that the fan controller thinks the fan is not working...so avoid anything with an alarm , it is very annoying)
4/ you do like me, and combine all the three above methods according to your needs and demands.

Without this, even a silent fan will sound like an airplane

[nunziata]

thank a everybody

[spacef]

there is an alternative: watercooling for the video card...
but it is something i don't master well (a lot of system, more or less costly, requires a case with holes on the back for the tubes, or requires that you make the wholes yourself).
really a bigger budget than fans and stuff... worth studying the question though.