A16U connected with ADAT expansion card just gives max 48Hz?

[CreamWare4Ever]

Hello,

I'm planning to buy a ADAT expansion for my Scope 3DSP card (v5.1) to attach with A16 Ultra older model. But I heard that I will not be able to run 16 channels at higher resolution that 48kHz then. Is that true? I couldn't find that info at Sonic Core webiste.

Cheers

[garyb]

yes, that is the ADAT spec. you CAN run smux, which uses 8 channels, to run 8 channels @96k.

z-link will give you 16 channels of 96k, but right now, it'd have to be a used A16 Ultra. there may be another z-link option in the near future(no official plans yet).

[CreamWare4Ever]

it'd have to be a used A16 Ultra.

Well yes, it is A16 Ultra. Have I missed something?

[garyb]

no, you haven't. if you have an XITE, you can use the z-link connectors for 16 channels of 24/96. if you have a card, you'll need a z-link i/o plate. i have one for sale in the purchasing forum if you needed one...

[thebalz]

I run this exact setup. 16 channels via zlink at 96k with a Luna and A16ultra. Works great.

[CreamWare4Ever]

I run this exact setup. 16 channels via zlink at 96k with a Luna and A16ultra. Works great.

O la la! I'm in!

So you just have 2 Z-link cables into A16 Ultra then? Wit ADAT expansion card, right?

Cheers.

[HUROLURA]

Yep,

The Luna ADAT expansion card for Luna provide 2 ADAT IO port + 1 extra Z-link.

1 Z-link connection can manage 8 IO at 96 Khz from what I remember, that's the reason why the A16 Ultra provide 2 Z-Link.

Anybody can confirm I am correct ...

[garyb]

you are correct.

[CreamWare4Ever]

Fabulous! I got some info from Sonic Core that a new ADAT expansion card series are in manufacturing process and that they should be ready in couple of days. It is same card, they are just making more of them. Hope so because I need one. Otherwise I think it is possible to buy one here on the forum.

Thanks.

[CreamWare4Ever]

OK I got the card yesterday. Thank you Scope!

But I have a 'problem':

I want to connect A16 Ultra AND 2496 I/O box to my Scope 3DSP + home ADAT system. What is the best way to connect them so that there will be no synchronization problems?

Shall I connect both to home ADAT, or shall I connect 2496 I/O box to Scope 3DSP card directly? Can home ADAT expansion provide them with necessary bandwidth through cable connection from Scope 3DSP?

Also, any specific optic cable recommendation? I assume it just need to have a Toslink/Toslink?

Thanks in advance.

[garyb]

just use a regular toslink to toslink cable.
as far as sync, just be sure that there is only one master. afair, the 2496 box will slave to the luna, so make the A16 adat slave and Scope master and all should work. really though, you could make either box master and Scope and the other box slave as long as only one device is master. whichever way gives a stable clock is good.

[CreamWare4Ever]

just use a regular toslink to toslink cable.
as far as sync, just be sure that there is only one master. afair, the 2496 box will slave to the luna, so make the A16 adat slave and Scope master and all should work. really though, you could make either box master and Scope and the other box slave as long as only one device is master. whichever way gives a stable clock is good.

Thanks, but I still haven't received answer whether I shall connect ALL (2496 box + A16 Ultra) to home ADAT OR 2496 box directly to Scope 3DSP card and then A16 Ultra via home ADAT card!?

[garyb]

however you want to connect the stuff, however the conectors are available is ok.

the 2496 only has z-link, right? connect it to the luna's z-link. connect the A16 to the ADAT conectors.

[vascomusic]

Fabulous! I got some info from Sonic Core that a new ADAT expansion card series are in manufacturing process and that they should be ready in couple of days. It is same card, they are just making more of them. Hope so because I need one. Otherwise I think it is possible to buy one here on the forum.

Thanks.

That's great news !!

I need 2 ADAT Extension boards soon



Adios

[CreamWare4Ever]

Fabulous! I got some info from Sonic Core that a new ADAT expansion card series are in manufacturing process and that they should be ready in couple of days. It is same card, they are just making more of them. Hope so because I need one. Otherwise I think it is possible to buy one here on the forum.

Thanks.

That's great news !!

I need 2 ADAT Extension boards soon



Adios

I got mine already But I haven't had time to test it yet. Will get back with first impressions.

[vascomusic]

Nice...

We'll wait for the testing results.

Recently i bought 3 used DSP boards: 2 x Pulsar 2 (Classic I/O) and a SCOPE 14 DSP SRB + Classic I/O plate.
Thus total of 6 ADAT I/O's.


I need the ADAT Expansion plate for 2 reasons:

1. I need a total of 8 ADAT I/O's (by replacing 2 Classic I/O plates with 2 ADAT Expansion plates).

2. This is more a 'problem solving' topic but i get signal errors from the ADAT inputs, even when there is no TOS-link cable attached. I connected the meterbridge module to all 6 ADAT source modules to check the incomming ADAT signals but some channels give always error signals (high flute tones) at random levels (from -80dB to -6dB). Connecting a TOS-link cable (feeding the ADAT port with music signals) sometimes will cancel the errors. But even then i get random clicks and pops comming out of these ADAT inputs while playing music. This behaviour only occurs on 3 of the 6 ADAT inputs i have. I've tried to switch the plates but the problem seems tot move along with the plates. Does somebody have a clue what this?
Hopefully replacing 2 Plates by ADAT Expansion Plates will do the trick


@ Scope4ever: what is the price of the ADAT Expansion Plate ?

[CreamWare4Ever]

@ Scope4ever: what is the price of the ADAT Expansion Plate ?

Sorry to hear about your problems with ADAT. Maybe Gary can give you some help.

I don't remember how much I gave, but around 120 EUR + VAT is the list price I think...

[garyb]

vascomusic, that sounds like a master/slave problem. make sure only one device is master. you also might clean the ports out with compressed air. it's very strange to have signal with nothing connected, that's not a good sign, but i wouldn't expect multiple plates to be having problems at the same time. very unusual...

as to the ADAT expansion plate, it only works with a 3 dsp card.....

[vascomusic]

as to the ADAT expansion plate, it only works with a 3 dsp card.....

Okay, something i missed in the first post...creamware4ever was talking about the 3 DSP expansion plate
I'ts a pity...because i meant this plate:

http://www.google.nl/imgres?q=adat+plat ... 33&bih=629

I don't know if Sonic Core still sells this type ADAT expansion plate.



About the errors: it's not a master/slave problem. I always use 1 master and 1 or more slaves in the digital 'network'.
It is indeed a very unusual thing... i also have another system with 3 x Pulsar II boards for years now and only once (way back) i've had a comparable thing: my Yamaha 02Rv2, connected to the Pulsars (using ADAT) was complaining about 'wrong wordclock'. After a few days (and clicking many times 'ignore' ) i decided to pull off the I/O plate from the Pulsar en then put it back. This solved the problem. Many years later....still working like a charm.

But this trick just won't work on the recently bought cards.
Only 1 of the 2 ADAT input ports on the first plate, and 2 ADAT input ports of the third plate have this error-behaviour.
The second plate is okay.

I can try to clean the double pin rows on the plates and also try to clean the optical ports with compressed air, however...even when i 'blind' the input ports with adat dummy-plugs the errors are still there...

[garyb]

yeah, maybe it has a problem. look for obviously cracked solder or bad caps.