hi!
i discovered this new core technology.
i need three PCI slots for my scope system (luna+pulsar1+scope) and i i was about to purchase a 1156 socket with 3xPCI slot, an asus p7p55
i was not able to find a 1376 socket mobo with 3 PCI slots, when i came across this mobo:
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodm ... od_no=2228
MSI P67A-C45
anyone has experience with it?
will it work well with scope?
socket 1155 - MSI P67A-C45 with 3xPCI
Re: socket 1155 - MSI P67A-C45 with 3xPCI
it's supposed to have mil-spec parts, so it should be a very good board("should" being the operative word). how well it works depends on what the pci slots share irqs with. chances are it will be just fine.
the 1155 socket can't have much available in the way of processors right now. there's this motherboard which can be easily found for under $100, that being a little older probably has a better working bios and less potential bugs(h55 instead of p67 chipset):
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/m ... erview.htm
it'll be cheaper to build, the parts will be easier to find, and the performance will be pretty darned close, but it's the 1156 socket.
if you must use sandybridge, i'd wait for several months before even thinking about it.
the 1155 socket can't have much available in the way of processors right now. there's this motherboard which can be easily found for under $100, that being a little older probably has a better working bios and less potential bugs(h55 instead of p67 chipset):
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/m ... erview.htm
it'll be cheaper to build, the parts will be easier to find, and the performance will be pretty darned close, but it's the 1156 socket.
if you must use sandybridge, i'd wait for several months before even thinking about it.
Re: socket 1155 - MSI P67A-C45 with 3xPCI
GaryB speaks wisely.
But MSI does listen to customers and updates the BIOS often.
I use the Military Grade MSI w/ the X58 chipset. I needed the extra bandwidth for streaming samples that triple channel RAM has.
I know there are gamer and HDD benchmarks that show Dual Channel works fine, but Triple Channel RAM with the apps we use is the most mature, and allows more RAM buffers for sampling apps to get in and out of the pipeline.
Sandy Bridge architechture has built in GPU on the CPU package.
You'd better see if the memory controller has access first. The i3/i5's suffered because of its on package GPU having first crack at the data.
But if you like the MSI Miltary grade mobos, I can atest to their stability, even using stock air, and stock HSF I overclock and undervolt for my sweetspot, and the hardware monitor temps stay low.
The Cell BIOS from MSI allows some really great tweaks too.
In order to use 12GB's of RAM you need to be sure your voltage is adjustable.
Then if you need to you can undervolt the RAM.
As long as your RAM speed is 1200MHz you'll be fine.
Speeds over 1200MHz show diminishing returns. I know guys who claim 1866MHz was the way to go, but no polyphonic advantage, or number of instances loaded show a difference.
Asus make great boards too, but MSI seems to have an excellent forum and their support is very fast. I have had 3 BIOS versions since August, and I haven't had the need, but it seems like when somebody quacks, they respond rapidly.
Have Fun.
New builds are most rewarding and a great way to learn things.
But MSI does listen to customers and updates the BIOS often.
I use the Military Grade MSI w/ the X58 chipset. I needed the extra bandwidth for streaming samples that triple channel RAM has.
I know there are gamer and HDD benchmarks that show Dual Channel works fine, but Triple Channel RAM with the apps we use is the most mature, and allows more RAM buffers for sampling apps to get in and out of the pipeline.
Sandy Bridge architechture has built in GPU on the CPU package.
You'd better see if the memory controller has access first. The i3/i5's suffered because of its on package GPU having first crack at the data.
But if you like the MSI Miltary grade mobos, I can atest to their stability, even using stock air, and stock HSF I overclock and undervolt for my sweetspot, and the hardware monitor temps stay low.
The Cell BIOS from MSI allows some really great tweaks too.
In order to use 12GB's of RAM you need to be sure your voltage is adjustable.
Then if you need to you can undervolt the RAM.
As long as your RAM speed is 1200MHz you'll be fine.
Speeds over 1200MHz show diminishing returns. I know guys who claim 1866MHz was the way to go, but no polyphonic advantage, or number of instances loaded show a difference.
Asus make great boards too, but MSI seems to have an excellent forum and their support is very fast. I have had 3 BIOS versions since August, and I haven't had the need, but it seems like when somebody quacks, they respond rapidly.
Have Fun.
New builds are most rewarding and a great way to learn things.
Re: socket 1155 - MSI P67A-C45 with 3xPCI
sandy bridge just launched. Garyb recommends waiting a few months and I concur. rev2-3 boards and at least c-stepping cpu's will be much less prone to 'weird stuff'. On the other hand Sandy Bridge quads in the upper tiers seem to be worth waiting for (2600K seems to trump 920 and even match 950 in many tasks--aside from memory bound sample streaming.)
Re: socket 1155 - MSI P67A-C45 with 3xPCI
I saw all MSI P67 mobos at the old Sands Convention. MSI was far away from the big Hoopla which was nice actually. The Hilton Convention area is the prime real estate and can be too overwhelming. MSI chose wisely, and their new designs look awesome.
Double touch screen all in one PC's, and the Marshal mobo w/ 8 x PCI-e 16X slots is a work of art.
The whole share everything on the same bus has jerked off the overclocking crowd though.
I heard more whining about Sandy Bridge than I heard about anything else at CES.
For once, I agree with the overclocking gaming GuRu's.
If you don't have an X58, you should get one. If you do have an X58 and don't need the extra bandwidth, get the Sandy Bridge. But even saying that, I would do as Valis says and wait until summer.
I am watching a guy struggling right now with his new P67 from MSI. The trouble is that most of the GuRu's there can't help him much. They didn't go to the show and get any secrets from the developers, they have no reference to even offer any help.
Sounds like more trouble with few knowledgeable people to help. They are all at the show still.
Double touch screen all in one PC's, and the Marshal mobo w/ 8 x PCI-e 16X slots is a work of art.
The whole share everything on the same bus has jerked off the overclocking crowd though.
I heard more whining about Sandy Bridge than I heard about anything else at CES.
For once, I agree with the overclocking gaming GuRu's.
If you don't have an X58, you should get one. If you do have an X58 and don't need the extra bandwidth, get the Sandy Bridge. But even saying that, I would do as Valis says and wait until summer.
I am watching a guy struggling right now with his new P67 from MSI. The trouble is that most of the GuRu's there can't help him much. They didn't go to the show and get any secrets from the developers, they have no reference to even offer any help.
Sounds like more trouble with few knowledgeable people to help. They are all at the show still.