Nails in the Coffin

[braincell]

"It's all about us protecting ourselves from a tyrannical government of the Unites States"

- Governor Congressman Paul Broun (R-Georgia) Gun Rally 4/19/2010

Since we have people elected to high office who can't even use correct grammar, it comes as no surprise to me that many people don't believe in science. We are doomed unless we educate our children the way all other wealthy nations do. We have always had a lot of ignorant people but lately they have become more vocal. The pilot who crashed his plane into an IRS office in Austin was hailed as a hero by some on the fringe. This is pure insanity.

Go back to school, and learn basic scientific methodology. It is was well understood and not controversial until some morons put their wacko conspiracy websites up.

[garyb]

you just don't get it do you?

YOU know nothing about the scientific method, or you would know how OUTRAGEOUS it is for a researcher to-

1. refuse to hand over raw data and explain how any adjustments were made, upon request and-
2. fake data in the first place.


my family is full of REAL scientists, not fakers. my Grandfather STARTED the chemistry department at a major military contractor/manufacturer and he invented MANY things that you use DAILY in your life right now. my Uncle STARTED the philosphy department at a MAJOR university and wrote the textbooks used in his field, i have considerable experience with the academic world. it's damned insulting for a twerp like you to claim "science" when it's just tomfoolery and trickery.

take your jingoistic rhetoric and stick it somewhere else please. fakery is fakery, even if you thought that it was real. just admit that you were fooled by the bogus theory and let it go. THAT would be scientific. when new data arrives that shows a theory to be unsubstantiated, any REAL scientist is compelled to modify his belief system. you know nothing of science. you are part of the ignorant masses which must be mind controlled for the rulers to have their best time here.

science is not "experts". it is a method of rational thought and enquiry into the real world. it can be mastered by ANYONE.

who agrees with you or doesn't or what you think of republicans, hillbillies or other imaginary figures doesn't matter once the data behind the theory's proof is shown beyond a shadow of a doubt to be manipulated or even worse, down right fake, as in this case. the hoaxers have now ADMITTED the hoax. there's no more for you to say.

[Mr Arkadin]

1. refuse to hand over raw data and explain how any adjustments were made, upon request and-

Which is every UK citizens right under the Data Protection Act to ask for this data, yet:

"The university embroiled in the scandal over leaked climate change emails has sparked outrage by handing the personal details of climate change sceptics to police."

So how far is this from a police state where if you ask embarrassing questions you are now logged in some police database as an agitator? Outrageous.

"Detectives are interviewing all those who legally used the FOI Act to request information from the Climatic Research Unit, questioning them about their scientific and political beliefs." None of their fucking business.

http://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/p ... -to-police

[garyb]

exactly, Mr A...

the whole thing is as unscientific as possible and reeks of scandal. ANYONE who is a lover of the scientific method would be disgusted.

[braincell]

HAPPY EARTH DAY!

Write to your congressman and urge them to enact legislation to address global warming. Some of them are very ignorant and could use some advice, especially in the rural southern states!

[dawman]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex ... buy-hybrid
I celebrate Earth Day everyday by riding my bicycle to the closest Natural Gas Bus stop.
Action is always louder than copy/paste words.
I really doubt that the estimated 62,000 local Las Vegans estimated doing this will change the Earths tempurature, but it cuts down the dust which is our local enemy.
Other benfits are meeting other health conscious people, getting in better shape, saving 70-100 bucks a month.
Instead of taxing the citizens and industry for unprovable crimes against humanity, start with something we know hurts the enviroment like plastics.
But there again your all caring Government that wants to take care of you from cradle to grave accepts large campaign contributions from the continued manufacutring of plastic.
Seems like the big spending Democrats of the Northeastern Districts are behind this.
http://www.plasticstoday.com/blogs/ten- ... ufacturing
They choose to live in mansions far away from the Inner City servants, but they aren't racists, they just want to ba as far away from black people as possible.
Just like you in your little Rural community. Why not live in DC.....? Thats where you still breastfeed.....I guess being around that many Black people makes you nervous, and thats not being a racist.
Why don't you practice what you preach.

[next to nothing]

1. refuse to hand over raw data and explain how any adjustments were made, upon request and-

Which is every UK citizens right under the Data Protection Act to ask for this data

With all due respect, I thought the DPA was about storage of personal data? I cant see that has any relevance to statistical data on CO2/Temperature?

[Mr Arkadin]

Which is every UK citizens right under the Data Protection Act to ask for this data

With all due respect, I thought the DPA was about storage of personal data? I cant see that has any relevance to statistical data on CO2/Temperature?

Sorry, I meant the Freedom of Information Act. We have the right to see this data which they were trying their hardest not to reveal to anyone (as they knew the true data didn't follow their agenda) - and now anyone lawfully asking for this data has had their details given to the police like it's a crime. This is where the Data Protection Act comes in - supposedly it should protect the identity of the people requesting the climate data - why should their names and addresses be given to the police unless a crime has been committed? That's making criminals out of law-abiding citizens.

This is dangerous regardless of whether you believe in global warming or not: if you (lawfully) disagree with the status quo being fed to you by the government you could end up on some 'agitators list'.

[next to nothing]

i totally agree about the surveillance. That's just plain stupid and unnecessary.

[garyb]

what are they hiding if it's not fakery(since hoaxed data is admitted!)?

the only reason for surviellance is to stifle dissent, unecessary if the subject at hand is really so overwhelmingly proven....

[Stevil]

...life goes on.

long after the thrill of arguing's gone

[braincell]

Man made global climate change is real. It's not a "hoax".

[siriusbliss]

Man made global climate change is real. It's not a "hoax".

Hoax's are the new religion that you've bought into. Too bad you don't see that.

http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... the-dodos/

[garyb]

if the data that the theory is based on is falsified, then by definition it's a hoax.

[siriusbliss]

It's apparently easier to subconsciously hate being human, so as to buy into the climate zealouts (and their own supplanted religion) who rarely, if ever see the 'big picture' of how the Earth/sky truly operate, and how we can truly live harmoniously on this planet.

G

[braincell]

"More than 250 US scientists, including 11 Nobel laureates, have published an open letter defending climate change research."

"Much of the controversy stems from a lack of scientific understanding on the part of the general public"


http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-f ... pen-letter


This is an important letter. They put in a more polite way than I would. The deniers don't know what the hell they are talking about and on this matter at least, are not playing with a full deck!

[dawman]

Al Gore bought a 9 Million Dollar Beachfront house recently.
It appears as though those films of rising waters killings thousands in NYC subways, and elderly people on walkers in Florida being washed away by giant waves didn't really have the right effect.
However his investment in Carbon Trading is very successful.
Thankfully the morons you worship are fleeing Washington in record numbers.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... JyMSYWPgfw
Al Gore is now a " denier " as his fear of rising Ocean levels has been overcome.

[siriusbliss]

"More than 250 US scientists, including 11 Nobel laureates, have published an open letter defending climate change research."

"Much of the controversy stems from a lack of scientific understanding on the part of the general public"


http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-f ... pen-letter


This is an important letter. They put in a more polite way than I would. The deniers don't know what the hell they are talking about and on this matter at least, are not playing with a full deck!

The best you can do for your argument is post defensive letters from scientists that were on the payroll.
All you do is argue about your perception of character traits and grammer.
Pretty worthless waste of time.

You still haven't read the data, or read the statements by literally thousands of other scientists that are not on the payroll - including friends of mine at NOAA.

If you'd wake up (which you obviously can't), you'd realize that you're one of the brainwashed deniers that will complain about the 'inbreds' passing more 'green' taxes and raising costs on everything and accomplishing nothing - all after-the-fact because you can't see it coming.
Obama, Bush, and Gore have inside track on capitilizing (they're only front-men anyways) on the cap-n-trade bullshit that will be traded in Chicago's Mercantile Exchange. But, since you won't see this information on CNN or the cartoon channel, then you won't believe it. They've been giving the pass to the oil companies for decades, and now they're going to raise more taxes to pay for the cleanup in the Gulf because BP is only on the hook for $750Mil insurance, and this doesn't account for the increase in gas and fuel costs later this year. Winter is going to be a potential nightmare for those poor folks that are still using heating oil.

Maybe when the banks finally shut off pensions (already started), medicare, unemployment, and social security to pay for bailouts of the banksters - then maybe people will wake up. But by then it'll be too late.

So, here's me - one of the those guys that's 'not playing with a full deck', calling YOU on YOUR denial.

You should probably just shut off your computer and stop wasting electricity. That's what I did on Earth Day weekend (as well as went camping).

G

[garyb]

more idiocy...


hey brain, do you know who Al Gore is? have you ever heard of Continental Petroleum? how come all the owners of oil are the one's pushing this CO2 thing the hardest?

oh, i guess i don't understand the science of how CO2 is the basic building block of life and why that most important gas is being demonized even though some 90% of the most climate influential "greenhouse gas" is water vapor. maybe we need to tax that too...


fake data=hoax 100% of the time, no matter what anyone says.

[braincell]

All the scientists are corrupt or only the ones who disagree with you? You are not a scientist so I find it hilarious that you want to argue with them on this issue. Where are your 250 scientists and Nobel prize winners? Don't be paranoid to prove your point. They can't all be corrupt.