Insane drum experiment

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 2:16 pm

This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Psychadelic <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Synths copyright © 2002 Ken Suguro _____________________________________ Wow, today's my creative day. Everyone must have thought of this somewhere in their career. What if you could continuously alter the pitch of a drum sample, but make it "work". But you didn't want to just double or half the pitch... I did this in mod2 and the patch is up in mod forum. Nothing complicated tho.

The result was... well, far from marvelous. It's got a new feeling, definitely. But at some places, the wierdness just gets too much, and it becomes irritating. I added some accompaniment, and jammed with it. Yep, that's me on jazzguitars, on the keys.

Maybe if I work on it some more, it'll work. It's still too strange to be of any use. Ideas?

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 2:21 pm

Well definitely something going on in that mind of yours

but I'm no real specialist at this kind of stuff but maybe you should try to link the changes to the bpm of the rest of the stuff and alter the changes in some kind of equation to the rest of it ...

don't know if this makes sence, but hey I'm a born mathematician lool

greetz

Post by **garyb** » Mon Apr 01, 2002 7:56 pm

dub reggae can be much stranger and more deconstructed.it's not THAT out there!

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Thu Apr 11, 2002 11:58 am

I think you are onto something, but you are right, it is not quite there. Valium has a good point, linking to bpm would make it all a bit crisper. Also I reckon that you could make the drum loop longer to add interest. Also bring the drums up a bit and they'll be more listenable to. Have you heard of Clifford Gilberto? Absolutely fantastic music, similar vibe. Jazz and scuzzed up beats can work ! Something I have noticed in his music is that his beats will get more and more insane but will then open up and calm down for the chorus. It works really well, and if you haven't heard his stuff I definitely recommend a listen.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Apr 11, 2002 1:47 pm

hmm, cool concept. I'll make sure to check out his stuff. It seems to main part I'm missing here is just plain practice. I need to experiment more with this. Thanx for the tip

[ This Message was edited by: kensuguro on 2002-04-11 14:47 ]

Canzerboy · Post by **Canzerboy** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:55 am

Very innovative stuff there. I like it. Technological jazz ?

Maybe it needs some variatons and if you just amp. the drums a little more?

Check out Howie B (Pussyfoot) and Up bustle& Out (Ninja Tune)

Post by **hubird** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 5:39 am

something different:
I would say if you try to get so deep in experimenting the drums, why do you play the rest of the music in a conventional way?
You never will get this together this way, I think.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 11:27 am

well, I really wasn't thinking much about the "other" parts.. just sort of threw them in there to see how it'll sound together. But you do have a point. It'll be better if I find a new way to sync them together. Thanx for listenin', appreciate your comment. Actually, I appreciate y'all's attitude toward material like this because these are the easiest to bash, but instead, everyone is so constructive about it. I really respect that.

John Henric · Post by **John Henric** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 3:43 pm

You could try turning the 'pitchbend loop' into another percussion instrument. Something like this.. Apply some of the suggestions here, make the modulation more consistent, make up perhaps a few pitchbend patterns and switch beteween them, 'sync' it in some way. Stick the loop behind a midi'd gate. Hit record, freak out along the rest of the syncopations. You could even add some filtered, phased noise to the signal behind the gate, to get something like a hihat feel. Lots of weird, jangly, trashy rythmic noises is always good. Period.

90's indie fans might remember Philip Boa and the voodooclub's song 'Love on sale'? And while talking about jazz/electro, check out the Miles Davis/Easy Mo Bee album 'Doo-Bop'. But perhaps considered such a classic I'm stating the obvious..? Rock on..