Digital Performer and LUNA II

bennals · Post by **bennals** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 5:26 am

Hi. I'm looking at moving from Protools to Digital Performer 3, and hence need a card to run it on. I want a PCI card, and low latency is a must. The PCI-324 card from MOTU is an obvious option, but the LUNA II card with adat expansion looks like a really good alternative.

I'm not at all familiar with the routing software for this card, but from the posts I've read here I'd guess the setup would be as follows :

DP3 would just use the cards I/O as it would with a MOTU card, and not be able to access the onboard DSP other than with a VST wrapper (which could be unstable and introduce latency). If i wanted to use the DSP for say, a reverb aux, I would have to send the digital audio out one of the digital outputs (adat or spdif) and back into one of the inputs, where it could be fed into the LUNA II mixer and routed to the reverb effect before going back out another of the outputs and into another of the digital inputs. Just like a hardware effects loop, only using the LUNA II as both source and destination.

Does this sound right? I'm assuming the LUNA II can't route the channels of audio from DP3 to the reverb aux within the LUNA II mixer itself. Or can it?

As you can see, I've got not idea what this card can do, so any help on the matter would be hugely appreciated. Particularly info from those using DP3 with it.

Cheers, Bill.

bennals · Post by **bennals** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:04 am

Oh, and I was also wondering what monitoring of the analog stereo out would be like. Noisy?

thanks again.

Bill.

castol · Post by **castol** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:14 am

hi bill, i have a luna II (elektra) and use it with dp 2.72.

works great.

with asio i/o and the creamware oms driver you can access midi and audio to and from luna directly within digital perfomer.

the dsp effects, mixers, and synths are best just to be thought of as seperate outboard units. cause within dp (and other type programs) once you have things setup correctly it will see the internal/software midi port (s) of your luna, and how many ever asio channels you have set inside your luna environment, both selectable as i/o within dp.

within your luna environment you can hook anything you please up to these modules.

hope this clears some things up.

orbita · Post by **orbita** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:18 am

Any sound output through Luna automatically goes through the main routing system and therefore can have dsp effects applied without the effect loop you describe.

[SEQUENCER] -> [LUNA ROUTING] -> [IO]

within the sequencer you select the luna IO driver (ASIO in cubase) which has a respective device in the luna routing window.
you can then connect that directly to a hardware device or plug it into a luna mixer/effects unit which is then routed to a hardware device.

Assuming there is a suitable driver for use in DP3 then what you want is quite possible.

castol · Post by **castol** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:18 am

the analog i/o is very clean, crisp and clear.

definetly not noisy.

bennals · Post by **bennals** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 2:07 pm

Thanks for the replies. It sounds intriguing. Almost like a digital patchbay on the card. I'm wondering if it would be possible to route asio outputs from Reason to inputs in DP3? Rewire handles this at the moment, but it has certain timing anomalies from what I can see.

Bill.

castol · Post by **castol** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:35 pm

yes, you have the right idea. one big digital patchbay.

re: reason...i'm not familar with the program, other than by name and having played with the demo briefly awhile back. never used rewire.

maybe that question would be better anwsered on a reason or dp list?

best.