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stardust wrote:8) This is the tricky part.

The national banks and trade organizations and finance control might seem to be 'one of a kind'

Believe in a hidden agenda
or
assume the rules of greed fighting openly against each other.

Both in consequence are like lunatics at work.
it's not either or.

they work in concert towards a single agenda and yet, they fight eachother for supremecy in the system that they've set up. the bankers are not at the top of the food chain, but they are very close. they are the wicked power behind the throne, that would sit there if they only could get a chance with the dagger.

who actually controls the flow of precious metals and energy?
who oversees the exchange of wealth?
who actually owns the land(the parliament buildings in europe, for example)?

examine the pyramid structure. that is the model of power. :lol:
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Cochise wrote:I'd never considered the issue from this perspective.
I was just thinking central banks almost controlled by governments and not vice versa...
:lol:
now you have sight of half of the story....these guys are masters of illusion, controlling your thinking through obfuscation and repetition. they fund the left and the right, the government and opposition forces and have an agenda that is so alien to your way of thinking, as to be invisible to you.
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stardust wrote: The national banks and trade organizations and finance control might seem to be 'one of a kind'

Believe in a hidden agenda
or
assume the rules of greed fighting openly against each other.

Both in consequence are like lunatics at work.
What exactly is making you see national banks, trade organizations and high finance operators as 'one of a kind', following a hidden agenda?
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Behind the scenes are the groups that print money and run the agendas and policies.
Start researching the Jesuits, Vatican, Zionism, and deeper than that the genetic line of the elite families that have been around for at least 3000 years.

Very hard to pinpoint any one organization or group, but if you connect the dots, the truth is there.

Most banks, political party, etc. are all just controlled front-men anyways.

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there is as much evidence of these guys' existance as that the sun warms the earth, but only if one is not fixated on the illusion....
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:lol: ok, yourself :lol:

yeah, it's boring....
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guys obama is a joke. you can surely do a better job. planetz for government. gary for president!
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ReD_MuZe wrote:guys obama is a joke. you can surely do a better job. planetz for government. gary for president!
:P
Please no.

I think Gary knows better :lol: :D

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siriusbliss wrote:
ReD_MuZe wrote:guys obama is a joke. you can surely do a better job. planetz for government. gary for president!
:P
Please no.

I think Gary knows better :lol: :D

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Yeah, before you know it Gary would be corrupted & telling us all big fat porkies... :lol:

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nuh ah....
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Gary, I don't feel myself so alien being on the opinion that believing in a unique nucleous of dark power is like looking for an incarnation of the evil or for a scapegot.
I'm convinced too about the existence of hidden, concrete, high spheres decision-making and having the high power to influence almost everything and everyone, but I'm also convinced that, there too, it isn't absolutely easy to make different interests to coincide...
...Although in a plenty of abundance and power environment, it's more easy to achieve agreements
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stardust wrote:
garyb wrote:nuh ah....
but at least you would be really born in the US.
Many of these guys are not US citizens (Rhom Immanuel was/is Isreali intelligence), and therefore can be presumed to have agendas NOT friendly to the US or the world.

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I hope it doesn't happen, but I'd be interested to know exactly how many people in the US would be behind/support Arnie as President. Can't believe we're actually talking about that TBH, but hey ho, if it's going to be, it's going to be. Arnie for President!!! :lol:
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I would vote for Ron Reagan, the son of Ronald Reagan and radio host on Air America.
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braincell wrote:I would vote for Ron Reagan, the son of Ronald Reagan and radio host on Air America.
heh...

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Does anyone here think that 'economic depressions', 'stock market crashes', 'credit crunches' etc have a similar 'ring' to them??? Does anyone believe that these unfortunate turns of fortune are incidental?

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Doublethink according to G. Orwell in 1984:

“ The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.”

and

“ His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully-constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them; to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy; to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved using doublethink."
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when?

now.
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I just learned a couple of things which he can start changing:

- Let every one vote, not just people without a record (!)
- Get rid of the god damn tax that makes me have to pay 30% tax on casino winnings in LA
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Shroomz~> wrote:Does anyone here think that 'economic depressions', 'stock market crashes', 'credit crunches' etc have a similar 'ring' to them??? Does anyone believe that these unfortunate turns of fortune are incidental?

Mark
I often hear from TV: 'Today in the stock exchange several billions has been burnt...'
Well, I believe money is never burnt. It just pass from a pocket to another
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