saw studio vs nuendo????

[ARCADIOS]

what about these??
pros and cons?

[astroman]

forget SAW Studio - it only needs a 500MHZ CPU and 256 MB of Ram
can't be serious stuff, can it ?

cheers, Tom

[dawman]

Some rooms here still use it for it's ability to film a show live while playing performances and syncing lighting cues via MIDI & SMPTE.
The stagehands still must operate their Super Trooper Arc Welded spotlights though.
Here in Vegas their customer support shows up within the hour too.

SAW wins hands down.

[garyb]

depends...

if you're scoring movies with lots of midi, nuendo is probably better.

if you're runnning a traditional recording studio, SAW is most likely the choice.

if you really just like playing with computers and having fancy unusable overclocked gaming rigs disguised as music production gear, get nuendo by all means, make sure it's a cracked version...

[marcuspocus]

Reaper...

[garyb]

[ARCADIOS]

it can be astroman, actually i believe that there must be a balance. nuendo can be as well very light, if you make the appropriate settings.

see? all these programs will seem like a "notepad" heavy in near future!!!
i guess it is always a matter of usage and needs.



garyb... why cracked?

[garyb]

garyb... why cracked?

it goes with being teh h@x0r.

[ARCADIOS]

[astroman]

...see? all these programs will seem like a "notepad" heavy in near future!!!
i guess it is always a matter of usage and needs. ...

you know I'm not as optimistic as you - watching that stuff grow for > 25 years
I question there will be any future at all (regarding the way we used to use our systems), but that's another topic...

SAW is focussed around a very specific workflow, in a way I didn't find in any other recording app.
I'm not much into midi anyway, so the lack of direct support doesn't bother me (you effectively buy a 2nd app that handles midi and syncs it with the audio tracks)
In the end it was a decision between Reaper and SAW - as you wrote: a matter of usage and needs.
SAW has a relatively high entry fee, but in the end it saves time, lots of... as I hope

I trust in this product, as it has a history with the same team in charge over all the time (as does Reaper), while Nuendo, Cubase, Logic are quite the opposite.

cheers, Tom

[marcuspocus]

SAW is focussed around a very specific workflow, in a way I didn't find in any other recording app.
I'm not much into midi anyway, so the lack of direct support doesn't bother me (you effectively buy a 2nd app that handles midi and syncs it with the audio tracks)

Yep, for me, midi is necessarily NOT in the PC, i use my mv-8000 sequencer for midi, and it rocks.

For audio, i have sfp + fireface(for ios).

All i needed was a small util like reaper for plain audio recording/editing

No need for crackz with that setup

[dawman]

I agree 100% w/ Brotha' Man Marcus Pocus.
I enjoy making MIDI tracks in Cubase 4.0 because of it's excellents workflow, but it falls down when playiung back MIDI tracks. Naturually Steinberg will blame your rig.
Baloney.....the same tracks played back by my hardware sequencer work flawlessley.

I had the original MV30 from Roland back in the early '90s' and it was 100% stable like my MC500-MKII is. Roland has made the MV series into an excellent hardware unit.
Version 3.5 looks really sweet and the VGA out is also a must. I used the S700's w/ their VGA out, and it is really nice using hardware like that.

They can be had fairly cheap on ebay, and after NAMM '09 next year when someone releases one w/ GB's of RAM, they will be even cheaper.
Phrase seuencing triggered by pads in real time, etc. A class act and a real Akai Killer.

Saw is used here in showrooms w/ hardware sequencers still.

[ScofieldKid]

Similarly, really used to like working with "Cool Edit Pro".

It got bought by Adobe, and is still available, now as "Adobe Audition": http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/features/

[dawman]

I was expecting Yamaha to release a smokin' hardware unit where their years of MIDI expertise and Steinberg's excellent audio could be combined, but no news until next year.
Steinberg prior to their sale to Yamaha were contemplating releasing their own O.S. until Yamaha stepped in.
Yamaha has all of the resources to build something but I think they learned from the QX1 series of hardware sequencers that releasing high quality hardware that lasts for decades isn't in their interest.
My QX-1 that I bought in Osaka back in 1984 still works flawlessley and smokes any software for editing and playback.
Even in the Piano Roll editor as they call it now, Cubase can be edited with excellent precision tolls, but still is incapable of playing back it's own edits !!
Sure my QX-1's miniature LCD is a major pain in the ass, but at least it plays back it's edits.
I might even go back to using it as a lighting controller, and halp me with my overwhelming FOH chores.
I was using a JL Cooper MIDI light controller and 2 x Alesis effects units that changed presets via MIDI back in 1985, and it worked flawlessley.
Cubase still stumbles, and can't keep up w/ these rudimentary MIDI tasks.
I will use an XITE-1 and VDAT w/ a Yamaha QX-1 for lights and effects.
I just need to learn a few more tricks w/ Modular so I can automate VDAT's transports.
I would only need to load the actual wav files.
32bit Integer playback @ 96k will be my experiment w/ XITE-1.
If it doesn't work as planned......no biggie. I get paid no matter what, but constantly striving for better quality is a habit. Just like buying more DSP's.

[skwawks]

I played around with a free demo of saw once but you had to buy the midi module if you wanted to play around with that . a bit of a marketing mistake that ..they should done a time limited freebee just to see if it worked . It loaded like lightning and it seemed pretty cool . WDM drivers I think so I never found about vst but then I haven't bought any vsts for about 5 years . I thought at the time that saw and scope would be a good combo but I wasn't going to buy the midi module to find out

[siriusbliss]

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