Crash Cymbal Mutes

[dawman]

I have been doing some Drum & Percussion tracks where I am using some really quality libraries but I am lacking a sound I desperately need. A Crash Cymbal strike that has the sound muted immediately, as a drummer using his fingers on a free hand.

I know by editing an audio track it's possible and rather easy, but I want to record MIDI Tracks into VDAT, and try to create this mute via MIDI editing.

Any suggestions for Cubase 4.0? I am trying to find a way to do this during the playback so I can demo before storing the result.

Fellow band members are very good musicians and demand I do perfect drumming and recording of vocals, so far so good, but a recent tune by Boston called Long Time keeps me really busy doing the awesome B3 licks, and I really don't want to have to use yet another knob attached to an LP Filter and twist while I try to play the accented notes simultaneously.

We will be doing this with High Hat mutes tonight until I figure something else out.


Ankyu, and BTW, some guys here are responsible for our group sounding so well thanks to their tricks and tips...Thanks Again.

JV

[JoeKa]

How about playing dead notes (the crash cymbal has to be monophone triggered of course) to "stop" the release? Or would that be too abrupt and hence unnatural for your purpose? In the mix, it should hardly be noticable the one way or the other.

[dawman]

Do you mean going into the sampler app ( Gigastudio ), and having a dead note follow the crash, similar to what is used on many hi-hat trios?

I think you are absolutely right there mate. I use to use a hardware sequencer that triggered an Oberheim DMX and Emulator SP12. I often could edit the MIDI information w/ gates, and thought Cubase 4.0 would be similar.

Since there are many instruments on the same accent, it would sound fine. Can't believe I was using a Hi-Hat there and the idea didn't dawn on me.

But your idea is why they made GigaEditor, just never dawned on me to make a Hi Hat grouping. If that wasn't what you were talking about, thanks for kicking my brain in the right direction.

I got an hour to try it.


Thanks Again Brotha' Man JoeKa.

[garyb]

in cubase, you can edit the note length/note off locations. try the piano roll editor.

[JoeKa]

well, sure, but a crash sound is not ADSR but AD envelopped, like most percussion sounds. and when there is no sustain, there is no point in ending the sustain phase by sending a note off. it has to be something else that cuts the sound.

[dawman]

I reassigned the Hi-Hat notes w/ the Crashes, it works perfectly. Copy and Pasted just in time.

Piano Roll Editor 'eh?


Thanks Guys, Gotta go earn greens for XITE-2.