*edit**stardust, you beat me to the posting...
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with all due respect,
science is a METHOD of testing ideas about the world. it is not a savior. technology is neat gadgets. why do we insist on getting these things out of proportion?
as i said, i have family who STARTED programs for major institutions. i'm no hater, just truthful when possible.
LHC is a phenomenal acheivement in engineering and architecture. it's also an irresponsible waste of money and monument to hubris. we don't need more science to solve the problems created by corporate run societies and eugenics run amuck. we just need more real life and humanity.
why continue to make the gadgets more important than the actual life? why do we value almost any animal life over our own human life? these devices are the
cause of troubles. more devices and study is always required to fix the problems created by the last solution. i suspect that the reason for this is that none of this work is ever done for humanity's benefit. rather these studies are items of vanity for those who hold the power over the flow of wealth and are always used to kill or control humans in the end. it's true that these military works lead to nice things in our lives occasionally, but that's only because humans always turn things to their use if possible, and because those nice things further enslave us to a system. i read about this thing and see pictures and i'm impressed and i understand why the highly trained lackeys who are all part of a compartmentalized operation that even the highest level operators don't fully comprehend are excited to be a part of such a major project, but there's nothing for the common man in it. the common man will likely be euthanized eugenicly and never see it coming, all the while dreaming of a wonderful scifi future where everyone is superman and travels across the stars and lives almost forever in health....
bosone, the biggest part of humanity not only never enjoys the fruits of this work(the great work or we can call it science), but more often than not receives the brunt of the force this work is capable of projecting. for most, the technological world is a hell hole. for people like you and i, and especially you and those you know, there are many nice advantages to the so-called scientific world, but the majority by far, find that they would be better off, being poor in a system that only loves money, and MOST are and will be poor, if they were even ALLOWED to live on their own land, mind their own business, grow their own food at least a little and live their own life. that would be the elimination of poverty. then ANCIENT technology like plumbing could make a man's nice little corner into paradise.
i'm ok with RE search and all, and if there are people going into space and mining the moon and finding other planets, that's all good too. let's drop the whole specialness thing for scientists though. thier poop smells too, and their work is less valuable than any city's garbage man(try to live without him in a modern packed city). their work is no more amazing than a good mother, a great cowboy, many musicians i've seen, farm workers, sculptors, or just nice people's every day niceness. they know some specialized things. there are other things they do NOT know. they are NOT all wise as a group.
or so continues my opinion....
