because i get tired of hearing about "conspiracy theories"

[garyb]

i thought i post a conspiracy that was in the open....

pictures from David Rockefellor's autobiography, you know, the guy who also brags about funding the Russian and Chinese communist revolutions(haha commies, a capitalist foots the bill! ), and who provided the land that the UN building is on...

[Liquid Len]

Sorry, I can't imagine how you can interpret that paragraph to read that he intends to form a secret cabal to control the earth. Basically he's saying, some accuse me of trying to form a secret society, and all I want to do is build an economic structure. Regardless of the merits of such a structure, it's a pretty weak argument to 'prove' anything of significance IMHO, it amounts to an official denial of conspiracy (maybe like David Gilmour officially repudiating drug use in the Live At Pompeii video, maybe not).

Not to say that quote is not of interest, because if he IS the definition of rich and powerful, understanding his motives, ideas, concepts of morals, family life may be central to understanding the results - what we see in the world is not CREATED by him, but definitely influenced. I'd like to read the WHOLE book, instead of a paragraph with questionable significance.

Evil is a force, not a person (well, if you disagree, define 'evil'). I think the gap between the haves and the have-nots can be overly exaggerated. I'm sure you've heard the line, we share the same biology, regardless of ideology. If you want to believe in an inhuman class of ruler-beings that control the earth, I dunno, maybe they are and they do. But that quote is not a very good evidence of it.

(Get this, I was jamming with a band the other week and we broke into 'Message In A Bottle' and I thought, this is the FIRST time I've ever done this song where the singer actually sounds remotely like Sting. It was a revelation - I don't hate that song anymore.)

[Tau]

Thank you Gary, for bringing this up.

Conspiracy comes from the latin "Con Spirare", which literally translates to "breathing together".

Therefore, we can say that, when a group of people gets together to make a plan, or a project, they are conspiring.

Sonic Core's staff and technicians are conspiring to bring us the power of Scope in a new, more powerful package. Others are conspiring to take over the whole world. Is this clear?

The expression "conspiracy theories" is an attempt to cut short any effort to reach a clearer view of the world. To call attention to facts that are usually devalued and kept outside of public knowledge and that, if known, might shift the balance of power, and undermine the ability to coerce human beliefs and actions to a result that is NOT in their best interest. It is nothing more than a cloak of darkness, that is getting short and full of holes. Fortunately, I don't hear it so often these days - a sign that people really are waking up to things (whatever they may be, seeing the world from inside the mind of another person is impossible, AFAIK). But things are rolling right now.

Of all the "conspiracy theories" I have encountered, some are interesting, others not so much. Some allow me to investigate for myself, others require me to believe in information that cannot be confirmed by myself. Some bring some light to my mind, while others just bring more confusion. Some inspire me to LOVE myself, my family and my friends, while others try to convince me to HATE some people or some race of aliens, or whatever. But they all point to this: do you know why you live the way you live? Can you make sense of what you do, in a profound, meaningful way? Do you take care of your loved ones, can you be their world, when all else fails? Or is there anyone, any person or government, or something else trying to steal your time, your feelings, your energy, your happiness away from you and those around you who need it?

There is a tale in reality that speaks about a GOD that gave its life for the good of mankind. Our leaders keep asking us to give up our lives for their own good. Don't do it.

Thanks and please excuse the long post.

Much peace,

T

[Tau]

AND, on the other subject, I like the one that goes "we are spirits in a material world". Invisible Sun is also good : )

Cheerz,

T

[siriusbliss]

Thank you Gary, for bringing this up.

Conspiracy comes from the latin "Con Spirare", which literally translates to "breathing together".

Therefore, we can say that, when a group of people gets together to make a plan, or a project, they are conspiring.

Sonic Core's staff and technicians are conspiring to bring us the power of Scope in a new, more powerful package. Others are conspiring to take over the whole world. Is this clear?

per-spire, re-spire, spire-eal, spire-it, in-spire...

Greg

[garyb]

len, you're reading too deeply. it's good to maintain a sense of humor.

still, the man says, in his own words, that people accuse him of being part of a secret cabal conspiring to end the USA and establish a world government. he then says that if such a thing is the charge, then he is both guilty and proud. simple! subject, verb, etc.


his conspiracy is open and admitted, not a theory.

are men like him just some other people? probably. even if they're not, they're not better than either of us, nor are they more important. they do have inordinate influence.

as to evil, i'll agree it's a force or energy, but these regular people are doing some evil things. even with that, though, i never mentioned evil!

i'm not showing you this out of an agenda, it's all OCD and felony drug-evasion. i'll turn myself in to the authorities and have my tranquilizer dose increased immediately.....

[dawman]

The recent bail out of Mortgage GSE's by Congress all started with yet another "friend" of the Rockefeller's. It was the quickest bancruptcy in American history. My Fiancee sued these guys, and finally won a large lawsuit from a subsidiary of AQ, but collecting it is another story. The CEO / Owner fled the country to become Ambassador to the Netherlands, ( Diplomatic Immunity ) even though in fine health he suddenly died at his post there? I guess being a newbie as a politician was too much to bare. The best part is how his son took over the post. The billions they escaped with is in the World Bank where it can't be touched. The Queen has little domestic power so they say, but on helping out for International affiars she seems to call the shots. She is also one of the richest people in the world. It seems as though Roland paid such a large amount of cash to someone there that his son demanded taking the fathers position to watch over the family's interests.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-4373

Well if they aren't conspiring, why does this "freind" of the Rockefeller family live in China?
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/for ... une/2.html

It's a lot of speculation, but these folks date back to the Carnegie's over 150 years ago. Controlling the Media, Banks, Governments, Wars, and the largest conglamoration of Corporate interests in history took a while to create. Winning over the Chinese with huge investments and allowing them to host the Olympics is a small price to pay, to have control over that economy. Just like a Mafia kickback, and just as illegal.

As long as us peasants have food on the table and a couple of Scope cards we won't cause any trouble.

[garyb]

why would a power monger engineer(or just support) a system that would lessen his power? no, he'd do the opposite.


the Rockefellor family(who is not at the top of the food chain) funded the Chinese and Russian revolution, as well as the UN(which says that China is the "Model Government"). he means just what he says, but he does make it sound nice.

it's as Mr Burns once said(who is based on David R), "i'd gladly give it all up for just a little more....".

[garyb]

yes, that one.

Harry Shearer knows D Rockefellor from their time together at the Bohemian Grove....

[siriusbliss]

yes, that one.

Harry Shearer knows D Rockefellor from their time together at the Bohemian Grove....