Google Chrome

[hifiboom]

I recommend checking Google Chrome.

Seriously a good replacement for Browsing.
And it really seems way faster than IE with many websites. (depends on content)

[valis]

Give them a download link so they don't accidentally wind up paging through 30+ pages of the comic instead:
http://www.google.com/chrome



Multicore users will see the biggest performance increase btw.

[hifiboom]

thx valis!

what I like is its very small (not overloaded) and the look and feel is like an IE.
Certain pages load quite faster than on IE, like for example Soniccore site and its menu structure.
check it out.

But yet still its beta and has some bugs. IMO its a high potential.

My IE blows up memory frequently.

[valis]

It's using the same codebase as safari, and has some new techniques for accellerating client-side execution of scripted (javascript & modern 'ajax' based websites like google's sites). So it's in google's favor to offer it, plus it's surely a good platform to develop for their coming phone OS/platform (much like safari win was to facilitate iphone development on windows).

It's definately fast, faster than ie7 and it's going to displace my use of Safari 3.1 for my primary gmail account, until now safari had the fastest ajax execution even on windows. Ie8 beta & FF 3.1 beta both offer similar advances, but are still obviously beta. I like actually distributing tasks among the various browsers I have installed, since I need them installed anyway for testing web work, Certain sites require IE like hulu.com & some stock trading/bank sites, FF3's ad-blocking and other plugins can't be beat. But using Chrome atm here it's definately fast & lean, and the font rendering seems to be better than either FF or Safari on my main LCD.

When it evolves support for some of the things that make firefox slick it could potentially take over more of what I use FF for, but having tools like firebug & webdev toolbar installed while browsing the web in general is just too hard to beat for general use (I can check out how something is being displayed and track some code execution on any site I visit). Still definately a good start from google.

[kylie]

right now it's sporting some severe bugs, including the safari carpet bomb, so there's no need to hurry...
but then, it's still beta...

see here (german)

-greetings, markus-

[valis]

Ok I've got 8 cores here and 8Gb of ram (and 4 HD's with things well optimized across them) and I've been able to get the browser to hang across all tabs. It's still less so than Firefox but I've got at least a dozen plugins installed in that which I am aware affects FF's performance a lot. So there are improvements that can still be made in Chrome's threading model and/or caching mechanism across tabs.

[hifiboom]

mine hangs too sometimes.

but its an early beta.
normally I like ms products, but within the IE, I am not so happy with v7.

And Chrome has the characteristics I like: small size binary, very fast, and clean surface.
I hope it does not have google spyware inside.

So if the yfix the bugs, thats my new standard browser.

[next to nothing]

did you read chapter 11 in their EULA before install?

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services."


and then 11.2:

"you agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services."

just a heads up

[Immanuel]

did you read chapter 11 in their EULA before install?

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services."


and then 11.2:

"you agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services."

just a heads up

That's worth a full quote. Thank you!

[siriusbliss]

Google browser is one big nasty NSA backdoor hunk-o-spyware.

Avoid.

G

[hifiboom]

maybe you re right,

but maybe MS IE is not much different.

[siriusbliss]

maybe you re right,

but maybe MS IE is not much different.

yup, or even just using google search engine...

be vewy vewy scared....

G

[valis]

TOS sounds like it's just ported over from Google video or one of their other apps. Won't hold up in a court most likely as Google can't in good faith make use of your banking info or private communications as it sees fit, regardless of what a click through license says. But it's interesting as Google does seem to have a habit of putting clauses into their EULA's that are nearly laughable, they've had issues with this in the past.

[astroman]

sorry to interrupt, but is there any possibility that a regular human being is even able to mess with Google in court at all ?

cheers, Tom

[garyb]

no, google is slippery.

next to nothing, you beat me to the punch. you're sounding like me....

[the19thbear]

if you have zonealarm, wouldnt that take care of many of the privacy problems??

[garyb]

no, not afaik.

zone alarm can't protect you from programs that you wish to run(like the google browser). it's kinda like the way vampires can't get in your house unless you invite them....

[next to nothing]

next to nothing, you beat me to the punch. you're sounding like me....

scary, isn't it?

[garyb]

actually it is.

better that i am just a crank. it's unfortunate to be correct.....

[valis]

Zonealarm does actually block some ads and malware based on blocking hosts, but you could easily do this by using a hosts file with regular updates (this is what spybot does when it 'immunizes' your pc, versus the runtime/tasktray stuff that it also has). It won't protect you from unknown sites or sites that should have been good but were owned via sql injection (like your bank).

Also I personally run at least the minimum of a home router with NAT/stateful packet inspection/firewall (not just NAT) in addition to a software firewall. The software firewalls all have 'malware kits' out there, which means that a virus/trojan writer basically has off-the-shelf software that he can add to his 'download package' to immediately get around your firewall when going back out to the net to grab the rest of the payload he wants to install. So software firewalls are more useful just to keep an eye on traffic as it goes in & out of your computer, at least in my experience. SPI/NAT and some hand ghosted ports (like 445 for RPC) on an external router will give you considerably more protection as the router itself will need to be owned by the malware and then the software firewall still needs to be dealt with. Best options for a home/project studio environment would be something like m0n0wall or ipcop running on a dedicated (older) machine or running under one of the open firmwares available for certain routers (linksys, buffalo, d-link): DDWRT, Tomato & OpenWRT. This of course takes time and isn't really as 'consumer friendly' as the off the shelf home routers that just work when you plug them in.