Obama In Berlin

[dawman]

I personally do not believe in having a President who has never served in the armed forces. That aside though, I am proud to see the son of a Goat Herder of African descent have a chance at becoming the President. I believe in everything he says about unity and change, and he makes me proud to be an American, but I also have seen this show before.

He will say whatever it takes to be President, and he is far from being for the working man. As soon as he arrived in Washington he comprimised every postion he stood for in his Senatorial Campaign, so he is also one of them sadly.

The reason why I prefer men who have served their country before is that they as soldiers know the true horrors of war and since they have total control of the Military, that should be a prerequisite. Nobody hates war more than a soldier.

Just look at Bush. He was just in Afghanistan but not being a soldier clouded his vision and quest for yet more conquests. Everyone is aware that the US military can roll over anything out there, but staying bogged down in a daily death match of hide and seek is what breaks down the support of the people.

I cried as a child watching JFK;s speech because my Grandparents were crying as they felt the pride of their old and new homeland. This affected me for years. But Obama's speech while sounding good, sure didn't seem to fool the German folks who were listening.

I hope to see everything these " candidates " do come true, but sadly it's all jsut smoke and mirrors.

At the end of the day, McCain will most likely win. I feel much more comfortable knowing a man with service under his belt is yeilding the sword.

I actually wish we had the dual " King " approach of Sparta. One politician and one warrior fighting each other, and staying out of the worlds dirty business.

[Fluxpod]

Mccain? I had some of that stuff for lunch today...tasted excactly like he looks,OLD.And i do not quite understand what being in the army has to do with beeing president.
I really really hope obama wins because that old halfdead granddaddy isnt even an option imo.The speech was nice,in german television there were a lot of people who seemed really happy about it.Good luck to him.

[Immanuel]

McCain is not exactly my stereotype of an anti-war veteran.

[dawman]

Yeah he is old, but having served myself, and having a son who served in Afghanistan, one comes to appreciate who yeilds the power.

Our Presidents can't do anything w/o Congressional approval, except send our daughters and sons in harms way. Old soldiers aren't as quick to sacrifice fellow Americans until all diplomacy has failed, or we are attacked.

If someone who has served before yields the sword, it is much more comforting to those who have served, or are currently serving.

My son has recently retired and I sleep much better knowing he will be flying an airplane for executives instead one one being tracked by Russain made SAM's.

[dawman]

Damn Straight Brotha'.

Since we have You Tube now, compare the 2 videos. The proud Germans who came to see JFK were finatical, that filled many Americans with pride.

Todays speech, was just that. A speech that is being over hyped by media groups who desire better ratings.

Can't blame them really, McCain is boring. He stutters too. But his service to his country while at war and certainly in congress since then are just not as exciting as the son of an African Goat Herder becoming President.

It's really exciting to those in countries that do not have the same standards as Japnese, European, and Americans enjoy.

If I were to be President, I would be more European and have more festivals and Holidays, and declare XITE-1's release day a NATIONAL HOLIDAY w/ pay pf course.

[garyb]

they're both criminals and members of the Council on Foriegn Relations, part of Chatham house and agents of Cecil Rhode's group which has as a sole purpose, British Royal soveriegnty over the whole world. as the group's founders the Rockefellors state(in David's autobiography), the purpose is the dissolution of the United States of America and the establishment of world corporate government.

politicians always say nice things.

ask Obama what he intends to do with the "Civilian National Security force" as well trained and funded as the US military that he called for on July 3rd......

[Immanuel]

McCain on Iraq: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EUKINg8DCUo

[garyb]

a certified loony.

why do they only give us people like these two to vote for? what's the point of a vote if these jerks are the choices?

[dawman]

There's always Ralph Nader..............

I did like Ron Paul as his admiration for the Constitution has been proven in his voting record.

But at the end of the day us Americans don't really have a say in these matters, only the powers to be.

May The Best Actor Win.

[chriskorff]

Just look at Bush. He was just in Afghanistan but not being a soldier clouded his vision and quest for yet more conquests. Everyone is aware that the US military can roll over anything out there, but staying bogged down in a daily death match of hide and seek is what breaks down the support of the people.

Hi Jimmy!

I'm gonna take you on here, hope you don't mind! (Remember, it's only politics - nothing personal!)

What 'conquests' has Bush Junior had?

In what way do you think the US military can roll over anything out there?

I think the answer to the first question is that the only conquests Bush had was over common sense, civil liberties and the powers of congress (until such time as he, Cheney and the rest of those gangsters are impeached, which is becoming increasingly unlikely. Until then, the executive power of the Commander In Chief, as Bush Jnr defined it, will reign, and the US will remain an imperial state, indistinguishable in many ways from a dictatorship).

The second question used to have a much better answer - but not since he decided to stretch the military 'butter' over a piece of 'toast' as big as Afghanistan, Iraq and (if he has his way) Iran!

US military superiority has been undermined in a way that would have been completely unthinkable 10 years ago. But now...?

In a sense, I think Bush started his own Cold War with the Muslim nations of the Middle East. The US won the first Cold War by pouring money into nations like Iraq and Afghanistan, and setting them loose on the pro-Communist countries around them. At the same time, they encouraged the USSR to take them up on their ludicrous arms race, which eventually crippled them financially.

Now, the US finds itself financially crippled - not because of a 'traditional' arms race, but because they've decided to invade two countries at the same time!

(And don't get me started on Mr NeoCon McCain.)

Again, nothing personal - I'm just stimulating debate by stating my opinions in quite a strong way! They're there to be challenged!

[kensuguro]

well, I think even with the butter spread thin, US still is the military super power of planet earth.. Ironically, reminds me of pre-hiroshima japan, China, Germany.. very similar. It's already been proven that if US decides to do something, NOTHING will come in its way. Not even its own citizens. And unfortunately, the militar supor power will keep it that way. I mean, that's what it's for. Of course, this doesn't have much to do with the people, it's just the government policy. It's like a raging bull, nothing in the world can stop it if it goes mad.

[Zer]

Doesn`t matter. Before visiting Berlin he warned in every media he could get about an atomic Iran. That means the war against Iran is already a closed case. I don`t mind you fighting at 3 fronts, but it won`t help your inbound economics.
McCain surely will not head for something different. The psotions are clear. Hopefully you will get a health insurance as well as an unemployment insurance which you can afford (but I don`think so). Good times while destroying your kids teeth with the nippers.

[MD69]

and during this time 7millions peoples from samolia and ethiopia are scarving!

[Zer]

and during this time 7millions peoples from samolia and ethiopia are scarving!

and we produce food for 13,6 billion of humans but are throwing 64 % away, to increase the value of our guts.

[Immanuel]

Ken, I don't agree with you. All empires are temporary. China has the strongest echonomy, the biggest population (or did India hit that mark?) and democracy, well ... All in all, it is a perfect combo for military super power.

[Zer]

war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength

quite common rules in the eu and the eu internet. Can be reflected by reffering to almsot every forum or social community and especially in jobs, services, manners and matters and of course the p.r..

[garyb]

yes, zer.

that's what it's about.


all the empires are the same empire. who built up china if not british and american based multinationals? why are the wealthiest among us moving to china and dubai(rupert murdoch, for example), while the UN calls china the "model government"?

[kensuguro]

Ken, I don't agree with you. All empires are temporary. China has the strongest echonomy, the biggest population (or did India hit that mark?) and democracy, well ... All in all, it is a perfect combo for military super power.

Ya, guess I agree. You forgot to mention "tons and tons of uneducated rural people" too, which seems vital in the equation. Or should I say, "huge gap between educated population and non educated".

I'm not sure if that will be "allowed" though.. I mean, china gets up to certain point and... Can the US stand not be at the top? I'm not so sure. Economy will probably be a different deal though, and will most likely be a main catalyst. I also wonder if china can keep it's own money inside. Seems like outside companies would help "fatten" the economy up (build and own the infrastructure) 'till they've got plenty to spend, and then vacuum it all up, redirecting finances... Seems it's "fair game" to fight a financial warfare, and defeat a country.

I just have a hard time visualizing any other super powers emerging since US has bases... basically everywhere. Isn't that what those are for?

I guess, if a military super power is under control, it's fine. It's just freaky when it's all out of control. And it seems like that's what military empires are best at.

And to clarify, I'm sure you feel the rather aggressive vibe in my writing.. it's not against those that served, or families involved in the military. It's just how the whole thing is used and directed.. by, ahm, the guy up top that I have worries about.

[garyb]

the US military was assigned(illegally)to the UN by Clinton.

the US military and infrastructure have been bought out by private banking interests(the owners of multinationals) and now serve the global cause, good cop/bad cop style. it's been quite a while since the US military went to war legally(via official declaration of war approved by Congress) and in defense of the USA. all the recent conflicts(Korea to Iraq) have been in "service" to the UN(which is against American law). although the UN makes speeches and resolutions condemning war, they have approved every action in the end.

in the end, the elite are the elite and peasants are peasants. all this politicking is just idle amusement for the peasants, since the Lords do as they please. now they have built up China and pauperized America. when America is a forgotten dream, we can all return to fuedalism.

the cheap electronics and amusements will ease the pain of the transition.

....or we'll all get smart and take care of our business locally. we can still all be friends and trade and share! the only problem is it's so much easier to just have an authority to take care of everything and figure things out.[sarcasm] if i just elect the right president, then he'll take care of me properly, because people who aspire to power have only the best intentions![/sarcasm] it's more trouble than most are willing to spend to watch these untrustworthy guys...[sarcasm]luckily, they're all swell![/sarcasm]

[MikeRaphone]

Well,
you can't deny that the American president or whoever is behind it is the power that be. What you seem to imply Gary is that it makes no difference who Americans vote for? I think that is a road to perdition for you and for the rest of us consequently. There is a chance if Obama gets elected and makes it through the mandate that America will slowly rise back from the dark ages. If defeatism prevails and people don't vote then you are fucked, and so are we...