stm mixer aux..

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:41 am

Hi.. i have analog delay. It doesnt completely self oscillate but i want it to

here is what i do:
i send a mic signal from channel 1 on the stm mixer, via the aux1 to the delay.
I take the "delay out" signal and put it into channel 2.
i then send, on channel 2 some of the sound back to the delay via aux1.
Doing this causes nasty phase stuff.
i suspect it is the (small) latency from the scope card that is causing this?
i tried fiddeling with the latency compensation numbers on the mixer but it doesnt help!
this can be done on a "reallife" console.. i have done this many times.. but not in scope.

any suggestions?
thanks alot

Fluxpod · Post by **Fluxpod** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:15 am

Try around with latency compensation.A digital feedback wont be pretty..i can asure you........I tried this once with a hd system....lets just say i had to pay for the poor ns10 that poped the woofer out in the process.......

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:32 am

thanks!
i did that already... i can do that directly from the stm mixer... the frequenzy changes--- but thats all.. its still there.

???

Fluxpod · Post by **Fluxpod** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:35 am

the19thbear wrote:thanks!
i did that already... i can do that directly from the stm mixer... the frequenzy changes--- but thats all.. its still there.

???

It did work for me on pthd...i actually never tried it on scope..and i wont even try.I guess its a really really small delay,but honestly a digital fb is ...horrible.It wont give you that controllable fb you know from analog.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:37 am

Why not just use an analogue mixer to screw around with your analogue FX?

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:48 am

dont have one

but some day could buy a cheap behringer mixer...
but hey.... why spend money if it could be done in scope!!... oh well

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:55 am

It shouldn't be all about 'doing it in Scope'. It should be about achieving what you want in the best possible way.

btw, I wouldn't rely on a behringer analogue desk personally. I'd rather spend a couple of quid more on a small used Sprit, Allen & Heath or Mackie desk (or similar) for the needs you describe.

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:06 pm

i agree, but for me it's all about doing it the cheapest way. got married 1½ years ago and starting to study soundengineering in a coupe of months= no cash:)

but i agree completely! but for now.. behringer crap!

Fluxpod · Post by **Fluxpod** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:13 pm

You could search for some small 6 in 2 revox or studer desks..you may find one for a bargain.Or ramsa..we use a ramsa 16 in 2 in our studio and its an awsome desk designed by dave peck..the daddy of the distressor,we bought it from a church in 1999 for 800 dm and they only used the stereo ch.If you look for a while i bet you find a good analog desk.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:34 pm

the19thbear wrote:but i agree completely! but for now.. behringer crap!

Fluxpod · Post by **Fluxpod** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:37 pm

Oh interresting where do you study?I did this myself:)

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:45 pm

danish music acadamy/school: rytmisk musikkonservatoriet